clipping round the ear

I am all for giving your child a slap when all else has failed but never in temper and always controlled

This guy appears to have lost control and lashed out never right in any situation

I have not had to slap Bethia for many years because I am lucky so far as she listens to reason(oh and I have a frightening bellow lol)

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Originally Posted by vanman

Father arrested after clipping his son, 13, round the ear while police quizzed boy over burglary




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it's the parents fault
Why do parents allow their children to run wild??

Parents are not always able to control their kids. Sometimes and through no fault of their own the child can rebel. What do you do when you tell your kid no and he/she continues to do it anyway? What do you do when you ground the child and he/she refuses to stay in? you lock the door they climb out of the window you tie them up you get arrested.

Society has just as much to blame as the parents. There is no deterant.

When I was 16 I commited a crime got caught and got 12 hours Attendance Centre. The place was hell the guards( or whatever you want to call them) were evil and for me it was a deterant ( I managed to not get caught again lol) I was a orrible kid off the rails glue sniffing commiting crime. Both my Mum and my Dad kicked 10 shades out of me regularly and it never stopped me.

The deterant needs to be in society. Tougher sentances something the kid will hate ( community serivce but hard work perhaps) as things are kids just get away with it

[dazzer89]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Arthur, it wasn't a clip round the ear, it was hitting him on the side of the face.

Anyhoo, is it me, or is the child in the photo not very mature for a 14 year old?

It's the same.

I wouldn't hesitate in clipping mine round the side of the head if they showed lack of respect to anyone.

I suppose it comes down to what is a clip round the ear,what is a thumping,slap,smack and beating?

I don't think the law is very clear on what is and what is not 'allowed' as parental punishment and frankly it may just be down to a particular policeman's interpretation.

[tweetiepooh]

And maybe the parent interfered with the police investigation?

I have to say the corporal punishment is a good tool to use with children but it needs to be done within a loving relationship, controlled and with the child fully understanding what is happening. It also needs to be appropriate to the "crime". It isn't easy all the time especially when the kids are trying to "kill" each other (mine are 8 and 5).

And afterwards it needs reaffirming of your love and care. That may mean cuddles/tickles/hugs as appropriate.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by pabscars

He should have done what any other decent parent would do, tell the police to read him the riot act and threaten to throw the book at him.

Wait till he got him home and given him a good old fashioned ass whooping.

My dad would have got me home and said

"pick a window"

Same would have happened to me as well. I remember getting a clip round the ear off a bobby once. Does PC Dooley ring a bell Pabs ?

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Mick Fisher

Thus further undermining the Father's authority and reinforcing the childs feelings that he can get away with anything he wants to do.

Our namby pamby PC society will continue to fall apart until somebody in authority grows a pair and deals with the drinking, discipline and lack of respect issues that afflict a sizable proportion of todays young people.

Or, thus re-inforcing that violence is the answer to everything.

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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

And maybe the parent interfered with the police investigation?

I have to say the corporal punishment is a good tool to use with children but it needs to be done within a loving relationship, controlled and with the child fully understanding what is happening. It also needs to be appropriate to the "crime". It isn't easy all the time especially when the kids are trying to "kill" each other (mine are 8 and 5).

And afterwards it needs reaffirming of your love and care. That may mean cuddles/tickles/hugs as appropriate.

Sorry, but that's absolute rubbish. How on Earth can you commit a violent act towards another human being and call it a loving relationship?

[pabscars]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Same would have happened to me as well. I remember getting a clip round the ear off a bobby once. Does PC Dooley ring a bell Pabs ?

We shared time together Ha Ha.........

All joking apart I didn't grow up in Warrington, my stomping ground was nearer Manchester, where lets just say a clip round the ear was followed by an elbow or two .

And the funny thing is, as young kids we respected the Police for it, partially because they scared the crap out of us, but they helped support the ethos instilled on us by our parents.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Or, thus re-inforcing that violence is the answer to everything.

Or maybe showing that actions have consequences. You do something wrong it results in an unpleasant experience you don't wish to repeat.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Sorry, but that's absolute rubbish. How on Earth can you commit a violent act towards another human being and call it a loving relationship?

When little Johnny pushes his little sister into the road and a big bus slams on his brakes and just about avoids killing her?

Naughty Johnny. naughty step for you when we get home.

[Caff]

I remember crying my eyes out over the side of my bed and seeing an all-5-digits red thing well up on my thigh. And then had to go to church.
Can't for the life of me remember what I'd done to deserve it. But I never forgot it.

There are sometimes better ways to 'get your point over'. But... can't disagree with the notion of : if a PC ticks you off then your parents proabably should do too. To me it seems thay were doing the 'parenting' for you.

[idi banashapan]

there is no reason to ever raise a hand to a child. no excuses. people can give it the old 'it never did me any harm' line all they like, but that does not make it right in any way. why are parents so against actually talking to their child and just as importantly, listening to them?

Parents who choose to use smacking as discipline don't need any excuses Idi. It's not wrong.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by idi banashapan

there is no reason to ever raise a hand to a child. no excuses. people can give it the old 'it never did me any harm' line all they like, but that does not make it right in any way. why are parents so against actually talking to their child and just as importantly, listening to them?

they treat them as property -not fellow human beings that need guidance .
and some parents don't do listening .

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by Chris

Parents who choose to use smacking as discipline don't need any excuses Idi. It's not wrong.

whether one believes it right or wrong, it still isn't necessary and teaches the wrong lesson, being that striking another (with whatever force) is ok. it's not.

Originally Posted by idi banashapan

whether one believes it right or wrong, it still isn't necessary and teaches the wrong lesson, being that striking another (with whatever force) is ok. it's not.

But that is your opinion and is not necessarily everyone else's.It is not in actual fact a crime to physically punish a child.It is a crime to beat a child but not to smack.Whilst your opinion is valid for you it is by no means valid for all.

Personally I think it would be nice if parents were on the whole allowed (within the rules we do have) to punish their children as they see fit without Uncle Tom Cobley and all, wagging a finger at them in disagreement.

Parents are either in trouble because they don't punish enough OR they punish too much.They are damned if they do,damned if they don't.