More smoking restrictions (is it enough?)

They were proposals made by Labour just three months before they lost the election - so no, they won't have had time to do anything about them.

Originally Posted by Chris

They were proposals made by Labour just three months before they lost the election - so no, they won't have had time to do anything about them.

Thanks for the clarification Chris ,I know what Hom3er is saying and also find it irritating ...and i smoke ,I would also imagine that a group of lads stood outside a pub doorway smoking with drinks in hand would be intimidating to passers by or potential customers

[Jimmy-J]

There seems to be more skunk than tobacco in the rollies around here these days.

The government could make a right packet if they legalised all the other crap that shortens lives. Imaging all the new jobs it would create. Crime would fall, prisons wouldn't be as full. It could also help lower a bulging population.

[papa smurf]

why stop at cigs in plain packs ?? lets have books with no title's in plain covers- grey clothes that all look the same -black only cars -only one size of shoe etc etc etc

imo its time for HMG and the other do-gooders to keep their sticky beaks out of peoples lifestyle choices , its time for some to get a life of their own and stop interfering in the lives of those they disapprove of .

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

why stop at cigs in plain packs ?? lets have books with no title's in plain covers- grey clothes that all look the same -black only cars -only one size of shoe etc etc etc

imo its time for HMG and the other do-gooders to keep their sticky beaks out of peoples lifestyle choices , its time for some to get a life of their own and stop interfering in the lives of those they disapprove of .

Good post.
I think too many people can't live their own life without guidance from authority. they depend too much on others to make decisions for them.

the sad thing is. we allow to be nannied so much, that it's become the norm.
we know no other way.

I have turned on my TV for the news. to hear what the new rules in my life are for today.

I want to to stand up and say enough is enough kind of thing. but people just look at me with scorn in their face.

[DocDutch]

I think its a utterly bad idea this... main reason say 1million people out of the 8million that smoke in the UK stop smoking that would create a shortfall in tax income of about 4 million a day (that is calculated that everybody smokes 1 pack a day) now I dont know if the gov would be able to counter balance that with anything else but it could be higher fuel duty, more duty on booze, higher income tax and so on.

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oh forgot what about a tax on fattie foods ie Macdonalds, kebabs, KFCs and the lot as that causes more health issues then smoking.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by DocDutch

now I dont know if the gov would be able to counter balance that with anything else but it could be higher fuel duty, more duty on booze, higher income tax and so on.

We could always charge for education at primary and secondary schools.
We could abolish the council tax (because we don't really know what it's suposed to include anymore anyway) and charge seperately for each thing.
sweeping your street £1 per week. emptying the council bins in your street £1 per week. emptying your household bins £1 per kilo and various fines for not having the lid shut properly or leaving the bin out too long etc..
there's loads of stuff we could do. the main thing we need to do to raise money is introduce more fines.
even fining somebody for being out after say 2am in the morning. if they haven't got a licence (there's one. make people pay for licences for certain things) if they haven't paid for the licence to be out after 2am and they haven't got a good reason for being out, then fine them the going rate of £80.
we could even turn the streetlighting off to discourage people. that in itself will save money.

Is that an attempt at satire?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Chris

Is that an attempt at satire?

No, it's an attempt at making money.

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Plain wrappers will be a godsend to counterfeiters. It will also increase the likelihood that people will unknowingly smoke counterfeit cigarettes with the increased health risks that this will bring.

Very true. even the shopkeeper could intentionally sell you counterfeit B&H. that could pose a health risk to the unsuspecting public.

the criminal you buy your cheap tobacco from can now provide you with counterfeit and very toxic tobacco. under the guise of a plain packet.

well done the government.

Gone to check to see if there's any cool and funky looking cases flooding ebay yet.

Ones with flashing LEDs would be a good seller. schoolkids could sell them for a profit. and if you wanted one you just need to fill it with cigarettes and probably smoke them.

You could look at it as reverse psychology. where something that is forbidden/illegal/hard to get hold of suddenly becoming attractive?

[Ignitionnet]

His grandparents were probably in their late 20s.

[Taf]

I just shut my eyes and tried to remember what the pack for my favourite brand of cigarettes looks like.

I've been smoking them for about 4 years... but couldn't recall what was written/displayed on the pack apart from the name.

I then tried to write the name in a font similar to that on the pack.

I failed miserably.

I wonder if this white pack nonsense is actually an advertising gimmick?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Taf

I wonder if this white pack nonsense is actually an advertising gimmick?

Would they have a price list on display, or do you have to stand there and ask how much are the B&H? what about the Embassy, how much are they? do you have them ones that, ooh I can't remember what they looked like now.. the ones with a blue packet with a bit of red in them. how much are they?

LOL we got these ones and we got these ones. and you say they both look the same both being white. what do they taste like?

I expect the cheaper ones will be the best seller. especially if they all come in white.

put them in your cool and funky LED case and you're the man!

[dazzer89]

Originally Posted by Gary L

In the future you can look back and say..

They banned smoking in public spaces.
They banned smoking in public buildings.
They banned smoking in company cars/vans.
They banned smoking in cars containing children.
They banned tobacco advertising.
They banned tobacco vending machines.
They banned cigarettes being displayed in shops.
They banned colourful tobacco packaging.
They went after people selling cheaper tobacco from abroad.

But they didn't ban tobacco. because they took a great big cut of the filthy killer drug that people died and suffered from.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12687458

If they are bothered about it that much why have the Government given the HMRC an extra £900million to tackle fake Tobacco? Aaaah that's right they need their £7billion each year in duty don't they?

What are they going to lump it on to when and if the duty from tobacco drops to below £1billion a year, £5 a pint anyone or £12 for a gallon of fuel?

[Taf]

Perhaps they could come in white packaging, but the fag papers could come in all sorts of bright colours with gold tips like Sobranie Cocktail of years ago?

[dazzer89]

Originally Posted by DocDutch

I think its a utterly bad idea this... main reason say 1million people out of the 8million that smoke in the UK stop smoking that would create a shortfall in tax income of about 4 million a day (that is calculated that everybody smokes 1 pack a day) now I dont know if the gov would be able to counter balance that with anything else but it could be higher fuel duty, more duty on booze, higher income tax and so on.

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oh forgot what about a tax on fattie foods ie Macdonalds, kebabs, KFCs and the lot as that causes more health issues then smoking.

Correct, will they strip the signs out of MacDonalds, KFC, Burger King and move them away from populated areas??