27-02-2011, 12:57
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Re: poll says-Half of Britain 'would vote for far-Right
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I can easily believe that in many, though not all, cases that's entirely accurate which is a shame.
It's one of the shortcomings of attempts to redistribute wealth through taxation and welfare rather than it being social security.
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27-02-2011, 13:11
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Re: poll says-Half of Britain 'would vote for far-Right
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I'd have to be cold and dead before I'd vote for them.
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Same here.
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27-02-2011, 13:14
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Re: poll says-Half of Britain 'would vote for far-Right
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Same here.
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But you're vote wouldn't count?
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27-02-2011, 13:36
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Re: poll says-Half of Britain 'would vote for far-Right
The actual quote (re 48%) is
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A total of 48 per cent said they would either ‘definitely support’ or ‘consider supporting’ a party with such an agenda, if it shunned violence and fascist imagery.
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Would be useful to see the actual figure of how many would "definitely support".....
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27-02-2011, 13:41
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Re: poll says-Half of Britain 'would vote for far-Right
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But you're vote wouldn't count?
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Then that makes me happy, I could never vote for a bunch of knuckle dragging idiots like the BNP and i certainly don't support the EDL or UAF thugs
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27-02-2011, 13:53
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Re: poll says-Half of Britain 'would vote for far-Right
Amazing what you can find, if you dig a little beyond the headlines.
Here is where the survey came from - Fear and HOPE, and the full report gets released tomorrow.
When go to the page, you get rolling quotes, one of which is
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Over two thirds say "English Nationalist Extremists" and "Muslim Extremists" are as bad as each other
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Strange - that wasn't reported in the DM article......
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27-02-2011, 14:06
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Re: poll says-Half of Britain 'would vote for far-Right
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...we're not producing enough babies to have a work force large enough to cover baby boomer pensions and health care....
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This is an "inconvenient truth" - we need immigrants, and their babies, if Britain is to maintain a reasonable standard of living for the increasing numbers of those who retire (and live long in retirement).
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...Oh and most of the time these groups are not far-right, they are authoritarian-left. Nazi = National Socialist party ya know. No idea why this misconception is spread that xenophobia and racism are far-right traits.
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Very good point. "Right wing" should mean less government, less of the "nanny state" politics.
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27-02-2011, 14:17
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Re: poll says-Half of Britain 'would vote for far-Right
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Amazing what you can find, if you dig a little beyond the headlines.
Here is where the survey came from - Fear and HOPE, and the full report gets released tomorrow.
When go to the page, you get rolling quotes, one of which is Strange - that wasn't reported in the DM article......
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I've just had a look on the Populous site for the full survey ,unfortunately it hasn't been posted there yet but i will definately have a look tommorrow and see exactly what the questions were and what the results were ,i have a idea that the DM have cherry picked questions and answers
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27-02-2011, 14:30
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Re: poll says-Half of Britain 'would vote for far-Right
The fact that 'The Observer' and 'The Independent' also don't report the item 'Daily/Sunday Mail' is accused of censoring, shows where the problem is.
From 'The Guardian/Observer'
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According to the survey, 39% of Asian Britons, 34% of white Britons and 21% of black Britons wanted all immigration into the UK to be stopped permanently, or at least until the economy improved. And 43% of Asian Britons, 63% of white Britons and 17% of black Britons agreed with the statement that "immigration into Britain has been a bad thing for the country".
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So that means a higher percentage of Asian Britons than White Britons want immigration stopped completely.
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27-02-2011, 14:59
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Re: poll says-Half of Britain 'would vote for far-Right
At least they had the courtesy to their readers to include the word "consider", rather than the conflation of "considering" and "would" that the Mail undertook....
re British Asian/stopping immigration, the caveat is quite important
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or at least until the economy improved
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It very rarely is black and white, in so many different ways.....
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27-02-2011, 15:04
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Re: poll says-Half of Britain 'would vote for far-Right
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Violence isn't the main issue though..
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Yes. Having racist policies is also a bit of a sticking point, I think!
Sadly, though, many people don't seem to see that, & are just sucked in by the "tough talk" on immigration & Islamic extremism.
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