Terrible performance Leicester (LE3) - Page 12

philce · 29-12-2010, 21:36

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

my new adsl isp is online today, sycing at almost 2 meg higher than I did on ukonline although upload is down on speed. The new isp isnt quite living up to easynet's excellent network for jitter, seems to hover from 1-5ms mostly around 1-2ms but that is fine significantly better than VM, speeds fine on it.
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Who did you go with?

Perhaps the faster speeds is due to less crosstalk because of the amount of users going to Virgin?

pip08456 · 29-12-2010, 21:48

I should imagine Chrys has gone with a LLU operator but until we get a reply who knows? (or infinity if in the area).

Bottom line if it works out better for his needs who cares?

And I don't mean that as a slight to you Chrys.

philce · 29-12-2010, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456

I should imagine Chrys has gone with a LLU operator but until we get a reply who knows? (or infinity if in the area).

Bottom line if it works out better for his needs who cares?

And I don't mean that as a slight to you Chrys.

No chance of FTTC here (dont get me started on that one!)

Interested to see why the 2Mb speed jump, that would make me think again going back to ADSL and Sky.

Chrysalis · 30-12-2010, 02:56

I went with Xilo who appear to have set it up using murphx bandwidth on a tiscali tail. So tiscali LLU at exchange with murphx backhaul.

The package has a 75gig usage cap with no free usage off peak period so not for anyone who downloads too much

On ukonline I had a 4.8meg sync before they did the migration at 10db margin, when it synced up on tiscali it was nearly 6 meg with same stats, after I removed the snrm overide on my router and let it sync at 6db I got 6.8meg which held during the evening but with some small packetloss. With the packetloss it still was far more useable than VM. Without SRA ukonline was nowhere near as steady, I think the difference maybe due to INP been enabled on tiscali (noise protection). The latency is higher about 25ms but is low jitter and upstream I am back down to about 800kbit like I was before I went to ukonline.

Phil if your 10mbit is steady with VM I would stay where you are unless you having problems of course.

After I resynced I am holding 6.2mbit with no packet loss now during the night. I never got above about 5.5meg on ukonline without SRA overnight even when my line was better and in recent weeks I struggled to hold 4mbit. Its worth mentioning tho over christmas many offices are closed and they are what cause most of the crosstalk on our exchanges as both are city centre based. I will have a better idea of what it will be like long term after the first working week in Jan.

philce · 30-12-2010, 12:26

Sky have offered me 1/2 price for 6 months, Virgin phone calls are extortionate, the management applied to the Virgin connection is horrendous at peak times.

I was with AAISP and got full line speeds at all times. The way things are going with Virgin they will throttle everything except browsing soon, I use VPN for work and I can see that being next.

After waiting years for Virgin I cant believe I'm thinking of going back to ADSL!!

Chrysalis · 30-12-2010, 18:53

yeah I almost forgot about the shaping etc.

seems you got reasons to change back then

Chrysalis · 31-12-2010, 01:13

here is xilo's.

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desi112 · 31-12-2010, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by philce

Sky have offered me 1/2 price for 6 months, Virgin phone calls are extortionate, the management applied to the Virgin connection is horrendous at peak times.

I was with AAISP and got full line speeds at all times. The way things are going with Virgin they will throttle everything except browsing soon, I use VPN for work and I can see that being next.

After waiting years for Virgin I cant believe I'm thinking of going back to ADSL!!

agreed virgin phone calls are way to much, I'm looking into VOIP or possibly taking calls back to sky and keeping virgin for broadband only.

Yes it took over 5 years for Virgin to upgarde the LE3 6 Area to 'Digital' and perhaps they just did a 'botch' job on the upgrade?

Being stuck on a 58db adsl line Virgin seems like the only choice

for nearly all users in this area. No FTTC planned and cant see the area getting it for another 3 years at least.

uno · 31-12-2010, 16:04

My parents have been having quite a few connection problems and low speed in LE4 3 area they are on 50mb service and connected to Northfields Hub site. They are only able to get 15mb download and 120kbps upstream have spoken to CS who basically told them to call back after the holidays

philce · 31-12-2010, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

here is xilo's.

Looks like you had interleaving applied after the disconnections overnight?

Are you sure you are on LLU? (I recall you are on Leic Central? No Tiscali on Montfort)

I'd say you have been DLM'd by BT !! (one of the reasons I wanted Virgin!)

Chrysalis · 31-12-2010, 19:27

Its LLU, but the behaviour is odd for sure.

I swapped my router twice this morning as I wanted to compare sync speeds and both other routers have higher latency (at first I thought was DLM also). But when the original router goes back in the latency reverts.

So

billion 7402nx original router - reports fast path, low downstream INP, the router can tune both INP and interleaving, however when I tried tuning INP it had no affect.
billion 7402r2 - tried this one out, same chipser but lower model, latency almost doubled, showed FEC errors which indicates interleaving.
speedtouch 585, old broadcom based router, like the 7402r2 higher latency and has fEC stats, in addition it specifically does say its in interleaving mode.

So currently 2 issues, a line mode that changes depending on what router is plugged in (so could be a weird DLM but isp says it isnt) and my exchange does have tiscali LLU. Also there is no BRAS profiling as I have experimented with low and high sync speeds with throughput changes been immediate (wouldnt happen on BTw). 2nd issue is the high base line latency of 25ms even on the fastpath router. Xilo will be playing with my line profile next week.

End of the day a steady 25ms is far better than a 15ms-XXXXms that I get on VM. But it seems unless I pay 100 notes a month to easynet connect I wont ever get the quality of service again I had with ukonline.

I am plugging the original router back in soon so the latency should drop again on that.

Chrysalis · 01-01-2011, 17:19

today its just turned into a big yellow block since midday.

qasdfdsaq · 01-01-2011, 18:02

Mine always used to be like that (before my reseg) every day but most of the time the issues I got weren't too bad - half marketed speed in either direction, or thereabouts.

Chrysalis · 01-01-2011, 21:16

also it seems I have been paying full bill with no discounts at all even tho I was told that would happen.

cant be bothered to ring up about it, will take the hit but shocking customer service.

desi112 · 12-01-2011, 14:18

Just saw on HDUK VM have a special offer if you are an exisiting cust and want to upgrade to 50mb. I am very tempted and so far have a solild 10mb service (after being moved to overlay network).
Tempted to upgrade because I keep getting hit in the evening with the traffic management. Anyone in LE3 got 50mb?

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Just saw on HDUK VM have a special offer if you are an exisiting cust and want to upgrade to 50mb. I am very tempted and so far have a solild 10mb service (after being moved to overlay network).
Tempted to upgrade because I keep getting hit in the evening with the traffic management. Anyone in LE3 got 50mb?