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Old 15-11-2010, 13:20   #1
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To the People of Great Britain,

As we are all painfully aware the situation of high unemployment and preference of government and business owners in hiring and providing employment to migrant workers over that of existing British citizens has reached a crisis point and given the policies of previous and current government, there is going to be no end to the problems faced nationally by the citizen workers of today and by the students who will enter the labour market themselves tomorrow.

As long as current government allows their policies to be dictated by the short sighted greed of their financial backers in the upper echelons of the corporate and financial sectors, the United Kingdom will find itself not only faced with mass unemployment but with long term poverty and a decline of the very quality of life itself for the people of our country.

It is no secret that businesses can turn a quick profit on the rotation of migrant workers from the European Union to fill their ranks with temporary workers who may only last a few months before they leave the country and the job and can be replaced instantly with another migrant worker; meaning that no worker stays in a job long enough to assert union rights or to climb the promotions ladder to become a business owner themselves.

This makes life very comfortable for business owners from top to bottom, however the long term cost of this will eventually lead to a total decimation of the chances of prosperity and self direction of the citizens of our country. We will find soon that the vast majority of citizens are out of work, in poverty being forced onto an increasingly destructive and ineffective benefit system, and are unable to afford to engage in the commerce that fuels businesses which will result in severe consequences for everybody within our country, regardless of their station.

To put it simply, the working people of this country are the support columns for every other facet of our economy and social structure; and when the support columns are chiselled away at until they are nonexistent, the entire nation will collapse.

My proposal for the solution to this crisis is a simple one, and believed to be the most effective for all involved, having also taken into account the governments commitments to provide jobs for those residing within mainland Europe as part of the EU agreement.

The most relevant example of a nation facing long term destabilisation due to job mismanagement that I have been able to personally draw strength from was the Roman Republic. An identical situation existed in Rome at the time of the death of Caesar where business owners and the patrician class had for a long time preferred to hire slaves at a minimal cost rather than pay the citizens of Rome to do the jobs instead. This provided great wealth for the patricians and eventual great poverty of the citizens when they were unable to find work. The solution then, proposed and enacted by Mark Antony during his consulship, was to pass a law stating that one third of all those within the labour market had to be citizens who were employed and paid with a fair wage.

It is no surprise then that my solution to the crisis we are facing is to do exactly the same thing. I propose that in fact, two thirds of all workers within every single place of employment within the United Kingdom MUST be British citizens and long term residents within this country. If a place of business has three employees, then two of them must be British citizens, if the business has three thousand, then two thousand must be British citizens, with the remaining placements being permissible for migrant labour.

So far the only logical objections to a law such as this would be brought by the European Union who are unable to provide work for the people in the economically damaged nations of Eastern Europe. However, whilst open to negotiation this is no concern to the government or citizens of Great Britain. It is the duty of each nation’s government to be able to first ensure that existing citizens are cared for before extending that courtesy to the people of other nations, and we would expect any credible government deserving of running a country to have realised the same thing. Any policy to the contrary of this would result in any government being deemed completely unfit to govern.

15th November 2010
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Old 15-11-2010, 13:24   #2
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Re: Proposal for the Reformation of the EU Migrant Labour within the United Kingdom

You know at least one other site you copied/pasted this on has already deleted it as spam, don't you?

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Re: Proposal for the Reformation of the EU Migrant Labour within the United Kingdom

This doesn't sound like a very good plan for people who like to go for a curry/foreign meal...
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Re: Proposal for the Reformation of the EU Migrant Labour within the United Kingdom

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You know at least one other site you copied/pasted this on has already deleted it as spam, don't you?

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Yeah i'm well aware libcom deleted it within two hours. So much for "liberal community" eh?

(or libertarian/indie manchilds, whatever they are)

I'm posting here because I did a search for "unemployed" and "forum" so i could get this seen by the people directly affected by the government policy and i found this forum as one of the top ones that came up.

I assume there're unemployed people here who'd be interested in it, no?
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Re: Proposal for the Reformation of the EU Migrant Labour within the United Kingdom

only been here a short while and I have noticed a broad spectrum of user base from far left to far right with a smackering on straight down the middle types. Some will agree and some wont
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Re: Proposal for the Reformation of the EU Migrant Labour within the United Kingdom

Your proposal assumes that we have the necessary skills and knowledge to fill two thirds of all jobs in a company in our "indigenous" workforce - how would we carry on whilst we train up our British Citizens?
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Re: Proposal for the Reformation of the EU Migrant Labour within the United Kingdom

This also has worrying implications for Arsenal Football Club! Can't be having any of that...
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Re: Proposal for the Reformation of the EU Migrant Labour within the United Kingdom

And Chelsea, Man U, Man C, etc etc....
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well perhaps if it was all reformed and Foreign players were limited in UK clubs we might eventually gain a world classNational side......
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Re: Proposal for the Reformation of the EU Migrant Labour within the United Kingdom

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Your proposal assumes that we have the necessary skills and knowledge to fill two thirds of all jobs in a company in our "indigenous" workforce - how would we carry on whilst we train up our British Citizens?
How did we manage before the EU? We managed and we're perfectly capable of doing it again, we need to or we're all really going to suffer because of it.

Look at the governments current "idea" to force people off of unemployment benefit- they're going to order anybody claiming on Job Seekers allowance to take part in unpaid community service projects side by side with criminals and while the unemployed are being degraded like this the government at the same time encourages more migrant workers to take up the jobs that the "indigenous" citizens could be doing themselves!

It's complete nonsense. And I think when these mandatory community service projects get forced onto the unemployed we're going to see a lot of discontentment surface very quickly.
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Re: Proposal for the Reformation of the EU Migrant Labour within the United Kingdom

Thank you for not answering my question (well, you answered it with a rhetorical question....).

Of course, the employment world is exactly the same as it was 35 years ago, isn't it?
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Thank you for not answering my question (well, you answered it with a rhetorical question....).

Of course, the employment world is exactly the same as it was 35 years ago, isn't it?
The whole culture of the UK has changed in those 35 years but I for one do not think its changed for the better
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well perhaps if it was all reformed and Foreign players were limited in UK clubs we might eventually gain a world classNational side......
It is curious how even the perceived poor performance of the national team is blamed on Foreign players and not the fact that other countries have considerably better coaching and development of young players (and often a wider pool to choose from). This is off-topic so I won't get into a discussion about why this is wrong but it is, foreign players are not the reason we don't have a world class national side.

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How did we manage before the EU? We managed and we're perfectly capable of doing it again, we need to or we're all really going to suffer because of it.

Look at the governments current "idea" to force people off of unemployment benefit- they're going to order anybody claiming on Job Seekers allowance to take part in unpaid community service projects side by side with criminals and while the unemployed are being degraded like this the government at the same time encourages more migrant workers to take up the jobs that the "indigenous" citizens could be doing themselves!

It's complete nonsense. And I think when these mandatory community service projects get forced onto the unemployed we're going to see a lot of discontentment surface very quickly.
You do understand a lot of jobs require knowledge, skills and training? Not every job can be done by a random person.
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Thank you for not answering my question (well, you answered it with a rhetorical question....).

Of course, the employment world is exactly the same as it was 35 years ago, isn't it?
I answered it.. didnt i?



The principles of "employment" are the same whether it was 35 or 35,000 years ago. A nation relying on outside labour at the expense of its own citizens will cause nothing but poverty in it's citizens. Examine any nation in what ever time period you like, and you'll find that to be true.

I did the same thing and that's how I found the Mark Antony solution. Don't get me wrong, there may be short term benefits for a handful of people as there have been, but the vast majority of citizens who're denied jobs will deteriorate rapidly, and its unnessecary.
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Re: Proposal for the Reformation of the EU Migrant Labour within the United Kingdom

I found it quite ironic when our Turkish neighbour, who has recently gained UK citizenship, goes on and on about "Bloody foreigners coming over here taking our jobs".

He recently missed out on a post that went first to a Polish guy, then to a Somali... from an application list over over 300 most of whom the employer stated were "non-UK nationals".

From that I get the idea that "UK nationals" did not want the job, which pays well with good benefits and hours, but sounded a bit "menial".
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