Traffic Management Policy - Page 8

Ignitionnet · 12-11-2010, 09:18

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Originally Posted by Sirius

I feel those pictures have been edited to look bad. Look at the ping

and going by your track record for posting bull excreta it does not shock me ether.

It's not edited, the test may not be 'clean' but it is a genuine test - it's http://www.speedtest.net/result/1026944663.png

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Originally Posted by telfordcable

Really fed up with this snail as a slow speed here at Telford (come on Virgin Media fix it) quite shocking speed here:

Odd. You claim to have left Virgin Media and moved to Zen.

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Originally Posted by telfordcable

Ask VM to put option (upgrade to super premium non-traffic management for extra cost) I will accept it if they willing do this!

Interesting. You claimed that 45GBP/month is too much for standalone 100Mbit and had no interest in that or 50Mbit, this before throttling became apparent.

DABhand · 12-11-2010, 09:43

Not sure if this has been asked before or not, so apologies if it has, but what would people feel would be a more acceptable amount of throttling?

25%? 33%? 40%? etc

I still think 25-33% would be more than acceptable, as it wouldn't hurt the customer and would still benefit others during peak times.

What do others think?

Zhadnost · 12-11-2010, 10:03

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Originally Posted by AdamD

I must confess, I didn't notice the changes much until recently, as things like FTP, which I rely on quite a lot, are noticeably slower

I use to get 5Mb-6Mb/second to my server in France and my backup company in the UK, now I'm lucky to get 2Mb/second to my server and less than 1Mb to my backup company.

On testing just then, at the moment I'm getting 4MB/s scp-ing from my hosted machine in france, and 5069.2 kB/s ftping. Although that is through a vpn to it.

So far I haven't noticed a lot of difference.

Sirius · 12-11-2010, 10:09

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

It's not edited, the test may not be 'clean' but it is a genuine test - it's http://www.speedtest.net/result/1026944663.png[COLOR="Silver"]

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However what was done in the back ground to create that amount of slowness

I for one do not trust a single word that poster posts to be honest. If you look at the history of posts here and on other forums he changes the post to fit the readership.

tweetiepooh · 12-11-2010, 10:23

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Yeah tech support are recommending to avoid gamefiles at the moment, it's a rather old thing and feeling a bit worse for wear. Bless.

We had 50M installed yesterday and speedtest.net gives full reading up and down. For download test I go to mirrors.virginmedia.com and find a Linux distro. That too was hitting near 50Mb.

telfordcable · 12-11-2010, 15:15

I did NOT edit this speed test. Here is my genuine proof here: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedt...317857657.html

I had switch to Zen internet as a backup ADSL and will quit VM.

lordy · 12-11-2010, 15:28

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Originally Posted by Sirius

However what was done in the back ground to create that amount of slowness

I for one do not trust a single word that poster posts to be honest. If you look at the history of posts here and on other forums he changes the post to fit the readership.

It would affect ping time surely? I think this kind of sniping is not productive, and reflects on all parties.

roughbeast · 16-11-2010, 16:58

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Originally Posted by TheJokersCard

A lot of people are going to leave VM all because of this. Cant believe they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Over what? I think all this traffic management talk, for 50Mb anyway, is a load of hearsay. Until I have evidence that it is affecting my connection then I will not believe it.

Ignitionnet · 16-11-2010, 23:04

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Originally Posted by roughbeast

Over what? I think all this traffic management talk, for 50Mb anyway, is a load of hearsay. Until I have evidence that it is affecting my connection then I will not believe it.

If you're still sitting on a trial connection it may well not be affecting you, doesn't change that application management is a reality for all non-trial customers and upload STM is being rolled out to 50M customers when they receive the increased upload.

You can believe it or not the choice is yours, you are not on a production connection at the moment, all production connections are being application managed. When you are returned to the production network you'll have the pleasure of the management too!

Your 200M connection is running on a separate interface from the production 50M customers in your area. Yours is fine as it's trial, theirs are managed.

Hard to be upset with VM when they are giving you an unshaped, unlimited, unmanaged 200M/50M connection for nothing

roughbeast · 17-11-2010, 05:30

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

If you're still sitting on a trial connection it may well not be affecting you, doesn't change that application management is a reality for all non-trial customers and upload STM is being rolled out to 50M customers when they receive the increased upload.

I frequently reconnect my 50Mb modem, just to see if we have had the 5Mb upload upgrade yet and have run games, usenet and torrents through it in the evenings. I have not seen any deterioration in service.

The 200Mb, as you say, is on a completely different circuit from the head end to avoid interference with the 50Mb service. The 50Mb service is the same as everybody else.

The STM being applied with the 5Mb upload roll out is a different matter. This is announced and above board. It does not represent a deterioration in service from the current position even for heavy uploaders.

die5el · 17-11-2010, 06:32

Well the traffic shaping is effecting me im on 50 meg (swansea) and we havent been upgraded to the new upload speed, time to vote with my wallet and hit them where it hurts in the pocket but just not the broadband All the services and No i wont be phoning for a discount for my services just to tie me in for another 12 months.This time vm have gone to far, 8 years have used cable services and been on their top tier as soon as it became available vm brag they got the fastest broadband but what they dont tell you is you cant use it to its full potential most of the time

Ignitionnet · 17-11-2010, 08:05

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Originally Posted by roughbeast

I frequently reconnect my 50Mb modem, just to see if we have had the 5Mb upload upgrade yet and have run games, usenet and torrents through it in the evenings. I have not seen any deterioration in service.

The 200Mb, as you say, is on a completely different circuit from the head end to avoid interference with the 50Mb service. The 50Mb service is the same as everybody else.

Evidently it isn't. If it were you'd be seeing the effects of the shaping.

It applies to all tiers, 50M included, the shaping has no idea what tier of service customers are on. I am unsure why you are apparently not affected. Maybe a Coventry special due to you being on a trial node.

Kymmy · 17-11-2010, 08:08

Interesting question... will it effect Moi!!! ??

I normally do it all in the morning (throttle myself to 6-7Mb on SSL443 via astraweb) will have to do a test in the evening..

Ignitionnet · 17-11-2010, 08:10

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

Interesting question... will it effect Moi!!! ??

Yep.

Chrysalis · 17-11-2010, 08:29

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Evidently it isn't. If it were you'd be seeing the effects of the shaping.

It applies to all tiers, 50M included, the shaping has no idea what tier of service customers are on. I am unsure why you are apparently not affected. Maybe a Coventry special due to you being on a trial node.

Ignition I got told it was going to be turned of (discretely) temporarily as a result of complaints on my port, I wonder if this is also going to be done in other areas to see how user feedback changes.