Get on a bus and find a job

[Arthurgray50@blu]

IDS is talking a load of crap, when l was unemployed l was told that by the JC, l said to them what about bus fares, am l going to get extra benefit to cover the cost, they said no.

To get a bus pass is money that some unelpoyed cannot afford, could you walk, no who would walk say 10 miles a day for a job that doesn't pay a lot of money, maybe he should wake up and say, we will place a ban on all foriegn workers who take all the jobs going, when it should be going to British workers, then maybe there could be jobs locally, or maybe the JC can offer FREE bus passes to do this, but they won't as it cost money.

Prime example, l had a job interview but required train fares, as l was on trial, I had to take proof of who l was, proof of where l lived, two bills, then l had to wait three hours for the money, then l had to take the reciept back the same day.

The Government have to provide work for this to work, but they can't as there is no work out there.

[DocDutch]

i dont see a problem at all with what ids has said. Until recently i travelled 1.5 hrs on the bus there and back for work as there are hardly any it jobs where i live and now am even applying for jobs that are by bus a good 2hrs just to get there.

And arthur when are you going to stop blaming the immigrants for taking the jobs the english dont want to do as they are too lazy or unreliable, couple of months ago was a brilliant program on the beeb showing the difference between an english man thats been on the dole for ages and doing the job the immigrant was doing and guess who didn't turn up or wasn't pulling their weight in the 4 jobs they went for only 1 english man was doing a good enough a job

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

IDS is talking a load of crap, when l was unemployed l was told that by the JC, l said to them what about bus fares, am l going to get extra benefit to cover the cost, they said no.

To get a bus pass is money that some unelpoyed cannot afford, could you walk, no who would walk say 10 miles a day for a job that doesn't pay a lot of money, maybe he should wake up and say, we will place a ban on all foriegn workers who take all the jobs going, when it should be going to British workers, then maybe there could be jobs locally, or maybe the JC can offer FREE bus passes to do this, but they won't as it cost money.

Prime example, l had a job interview but required train fares, as l was on trial, I had to take proof of who l was, proof of where l lived, two bills, then l had to wait three hours for the money, then l had to take the reciept back the same day.

The Government have to provide work for this to work, but they can't as there is no work out there.

But you got the money back - the process may be a little convoluted and long-winded, but it stops it being abused.

btw, didn't take you long to blame the foreigners, did it, Arthur?

[punky]

Originally Posted by Hugh

But you got the money back - the process may be a little convoluted and long-winded, but it stops it being abused.

btw, didn't take you long to blame the foreigners, did it, Arthur?

Can't rep you either, but well said.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

IDS is talking a load of crap, when l was unemployed l was told that by the JC, l said to them what about bus fares, am l going to get extra benefit to cover the cost, they said no.

Why should you be entitled to benefit to pay your bus fare to work? Are you some sort of special case?

To get a bus pass is money that some unelpoyed cannot afford, could you walk, no who would walk say 10 miles a day for a job that doesn't pay a lot of money,

You don't need a bus pass - not for the first month anyway. Just pay the man when you get on board. Use coins.

maybe he should wake up and say, we will place a ban on all foriegn workers who take all the jobs going, when it should be going to British workers, then maybe there could be jobs locally, or maybe the JC can offer FREE bus passes to do this, but they won't as it cost money.

Now you're just having a nonsensical rant.

Prime example, l had a job interview but required train fares, as l was on trial, I had to take proof of who l was, proof of where l lived, two bills, then l had to wait three hours for the money, then l had to take the reciept back the same day.

Prime example of what? A moment ago you were moaning about not getting help with fares. Now you're moaning because you do get them, because (shock, horror) the Job Centre wants you to prove you have actually incurred the expenses. Something any employer would also insist upon before paying expenses.

The Government have to provide work for this to work, but they can't as there is no work out there.

Yes, there is. If there's no work in your town, get on a bus and find it in the next one. Or do what I've done and start your own business working from home.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chris

You don't need a bus pass - not for the first month anyway. Just pay the man when you get on board. Use coins.

First time I used a bus for years the other day, it was £2 for 5 stops, dread to think what it'd be if I had been on it an hour, even if it was £2 flat rate I doubt you'd get anywhere meaningful at the end of the line, so that'll be another £2 for another bus, soon mounts up when your on JSA and that of course doesn't take into account the amount of bus services being cut either.

The point is daddy, if you're on JSA then you can claim back the cost of going to interviews. If you have a job, then the cost of the commute is just one of the expenses you deal with, just like everyone else. I really don't see Arthur's point. I doubt he does, either, beyond blaming foreigners and Tories for everything.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chris

The point is daddy, if you're on JSA then you can claim back the cost of going to interviews. If you have a job, then the cost of the commute is just one of the expenses you deal with, just like everyone else. I really don't see Arthur's point. I doubt he does, either, beyond blaming foreigners and Tories for everything.

Perhaps Arthur's point is that the number of bus services are being cut by up to a fifth, meaning a lot fewer opportunities to follow IDS's advice, then again perhaps not....

[vanman]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

First time I used a bus for years the other day, it was £2 for 5 stops, dread to think what it'd be if I had been on it an hour, even if it was £2 flat rate I doubt you'd get anywhere meaningful at the end of the line, so that'll be another £2 for another bus, soon mounts up when your on JSA and that of course doesn't take into account the amount of bus services being cut either.

Here in luton its £3.70 for a allday ticket that will let you travel on any Arriva bus any time from luton to as far as milton keynes about 20 miles

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

First time I used a bus for years the other day, it was £2 for 5 stops, dread to think what it'd be if I had been on it an hour, even if it was £2 flat rate I doubt you'd get anywhere meaningful at the end of the line, so that'll be another £2 for another bus, soon mounts up when your on JSA and that of course doesn't take into account the amount of bus services being cut either.

I get the bus to work most days, and pay £4.30 for a Day-Rider (any where in Leeds, as many buses as it takes) - there are also Yorkshire Day Riders for buses any where in Yorkshire for £5 per day, and a pass for all buses and trains in West Yorkshire for £6.20; I am sure most regions/cities have something similar.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Perhaps Arthur's point is that the number of bus services are being cut by up to a fifth, meaning a lot fewer opportunities to follow IDS's advice, then again perhaps not....

Do you really think that was Arthur's point, or is it just one you thought he should have made?

btw, can I ask where you got Arthur's point from (bus services being cut by a fifth)?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I get the bus to work most days, and pay £4.30 for a Day-Rider (any where in Leeds, as many buses as it takes) - there are also Yorkshire Day Riders for buses any where in Yorkshire for £5 per day, and a pass for all buses and trains in West Yorkshire for £6.20; I am sure most regions/cities have something similar.

I live in Havering which despite being a London Borough is really Essex, I think my £2 is a flat fee no matter how many stops, which would of been cheaper if I had an Oyster card I am sure.

Do you really think that was Arthur's point, or is it just one you thought he should have made?

btw, can I ask where you got Arthur's point from (bus services being cut by a fifth)?

Daily Mail *shudders*

Graham Stevenson, national officer of Unite said: 'Iain Duncan Smith is callously telling people to get on a bus to look for a job but the Tories are actually cutting bus services. It's alarming that subsidies paid direct to bus operators have been cut by a massive 20 per cent.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti....html?ITO=1490

Granted they might be able to trim some of the backroom costs back but I cant see anything other than service cuts tbh

[LondonRoad]

Most public transport options also offer weekly/monthly/season tickets that work out considerably cheaper.

Anybody actually looking for a job would factor in costs and feasibility of getting there.

I'm going back a few years now but I once was considered to be an unsuitable candidate for a job because of where I stayed. At the time I stayed in East Kilbride and the job was in Hillington. There wasn't a direct bus at the time but I could have done it by train no problem.

It does pose the question though, if you're an employer and you are aware from previous experience that the public transport from a particularly location is notoriously poor, do you consider applicants from that area as unsuitable?


I can get a return on the train for just over £4, by bus just under £4 or by cycle - a pittance.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by LondonRoad

Are there jobs in Cardiff?

Originally Posted by LondonRoad

Is there a reasonable public transport system?

Do you mean Cardiff's Disintegrated Transport System?

Originally Posted by vanman

Here in luton its £3.70 for a allday ticket that will let you travel on any Arriva bus any time from luton to as far as milton keynes about 20 miles

Indeed. I get the 4 week ticket on my mobile (£33.30), saves me a fortune each month in petrol and parking. £80 to be precice, every month.

Very poor value indeed

[punky]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I live in Havering which despite being a London Borough is really Essex, I think my £2 is a flat fee no matter how many stops, which would of been cheaper if I had an Oyster card I am sure.







Daily Mail *shudders*

Graham Stevenson, national officer of Unite said: 'Iain Duncan Smith is callously telling people to get on a bus to look for a job but the Tories are actually cutting bus services. It's alarming that subsidies paid direct to bus operators have been cut by a massive 20 per cent.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti....html?ITO=1490

Granted they might be able to trim some of the backroom costs back but I cant see anything other than service cuts tbh

Cutting subsidies isn't the same as cutting services though.

Also the cost for Oyster is 1.20 per trip regardless of length (which can be long sometimes). The maximum daily charge for bus use is £3.90. Oyster is also free via a refundable £3 deposit.