The Pope Thread [UK visit 2010 - merged] - Page 9

Mr Angry · 16-09-2010, 20:10

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Originally Posted by danielf

.....if that is associating Atheism with Nazism, I think people are right to be aggrieved.

Again, I don't think it was aimed at ordinary God fearing atheists.

That said I'm quite sure there are still Nazi atheists and atheist extremists in abundance who no doubt - theology aside - are furious with his comments.

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Having said that, there is indeed no need to counter affront with further affront.

Agreed 100%.

danielf · 16-09-2010, 20:54

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Originally Posted by Masque

But he seems to think that by virtue of being an atheist that we should be nazi's, he wore the uniform and is still busy back pedalling and we the atheists will feel that the is more likelihood of him being the real nazi.

You'd have worn the uniform if you'd have lived in Germany and was of the right age at the time.

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Again, I don't think it was aimed at ordinary God fearing atheists.

Perhaps. Then again, the man has previous form when it comes to extremely self-righteous ermm clumsiness is the word I guess...

Peter_ · 16-09-2010, 21:10

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Originally Posted by danielf

You'd have worn the uniform if you'd have lived in Germany and was of the right age at the time.

Or I might have worn a yellow star.

danielf · 16-09-2010, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Masque

Or I might have worn a yellow star.

True. But I think you get the point. The fact that he wore the uniform does not make him a nazi. He was one of many that were forced to wear the uniform. It's a bit cheap to hold it against him.

Peter_ · 16-09-2010, 21:21

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Originally Posted by danielf

True. But I think you get the point. The fact that he wore the uniform does not make him a nazi. He was one of many that were forced to wear the uniform. It's a bit cheap to hold it against him.

So is comparing atheists to nazi's which is even cheaper.

Also with my surname I could have wore both items the star or a uniform.

danielf · 16-09-2010, 21:26

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So is comparing atheists to nazi's which is even cheaper.

Clumsy and misguided (perhaps even dangerous), but not cheap I think.

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Also with my surname I could have wore both items the star or a uniform.

Same here, I didn't though, and I suspect neither did you.

16-09-2010, 21:34

Why is he dragging up nazis anyway ,i'm sure there are more pressing issues within the catholic church that need to be addressed than atheist nazis

Stephen · 16-09-2010, 21:43

I was at the mass in Glasgow and had a great day.

He is the leader of the Catholic church. I personally don't care what he may have done when he was younger!

Took this photo of him

Sirius · 16-09-2010, 21:52

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Originally Posted by danielf

True. But I think you get the point. The fact that he wore the uniform does not make him a nazi. He was one of many that were forced to wear the uniform. It's a bit cheap to hold it against him.

As being an atheist does not make you a Nazi but he seems to think it does.

What shocks me is, Was that speech not vetted first.

If it was then there was certainly intent meant by it , But if it was not then i suggest he gets the next one checked first before he puts his big foot in it again.

danielf · 16-09-2010, 22:00

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Originally Posted by Sirius

As being an atheist does not make you a Nazi but he seems to think it does.

I think it's slightly more nuanced than that, but it does seem to go in that general direction.

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What shocks me is, Was that speech not vetted first. If it was then there was certainly intent meant by it. However if it was not then i suggest he gets the next one checked first before he puts his big foot in it again.

He's infallible. So there's no need to vet the speech. Vetting the speech might even be seen as an admission that he's not infallible.

LondonRoad · 16-09-2010, 22:06

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I was at the mass in Glasgow and had a great day.

He is the leader of the Catholic church. I personally don't care what he may have done when he was younger!

Took this photo of him

SWMBO and 8 year old LR were there. They're just home about half an hour ago looking very weather beaten but had a great day.

wwe · 16-09-2010, 22:16

i think its great him being here see the look on people faces they were so excited

Gary L · 16-09-2010, 22:52

I think if the pope was to wear a normal dark suit there wouldn't be such a fascination with him. the white thing is like an optical illusion.

LondonRoad · 16-09-2010, 22:55

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I think if the pope was to wear a normal dark suit there wouldn't be such a fascination with him. the white thing is like an optical illusion.

I noticed that with Michael Jackson.

Gary L · 16-09-2010, 23:00

And what's with the waving like the queen? can't he just wave like he's saying "alright, how ya doing?!" ?