Hampshire police force shedding 1400 staff

[PeteLockwood]

yes i am aware except enough of them and it would be suicide to attack surely during all the cuts there has to be a cheaper alternative thats all im saying

[alferret]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This government is a disgrace for even thinking about this. Cutbacks is one thing, but ripping the police forces to bits is another.

I think that idiot Cameron and the puppet, should get rid of the staff that they have to save money, and stop feburbing building that don't need it. What they are doing is allowing crime to increase, this is similar to what thhat bitch Thatcher did with the poll tax, and that was anarchy on our streets.

Come on then arfur spell it out for us HOW WOULD YOU RUN THIS COUNTRY???

How would you deal with 13 years of the Labour Gov, spending their way into creating what we have now. Please tell us.


Oh & I was wondering how long it was before you brought Maggie into the fray

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Quite simply this country has been run disastrously, even the Thatcher years, But then the Tory would make cutbacks like the way they are doing now, the last time they were in power, they reduced the country to a shambles.

The first thing l would do, is Increase the Police service, at the moment people are scared to walk the streets, due to robberies, rapes and murders, The way l would reduce the billions of pounds that the government is talking about, is reduce the government buildings that are a waste of time, l would freeze all building works on government building, it was said last year that a TORY MP paid £40.000 to redecorate his office, we have to save money, but l would do this at the top,.

We need Hospital staff, we need education, we need vital services, we can get cuts through national wastage, people who retire etc we need investment and this will not be done, if we get rid of these services, we work for the future, can you imagine if a hospital was closed down, the staff would be on the dole, and it us us who pay the benefit in taxes. All this government are doing is saving money for there own pocket.

[PeteLockwood]

arthur we cant afford the force we have that is the whole point, so where do you propose the money comes from to increase it ? it would mean another department getting the chop?

do this at the top, where would you start ?

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Quite simply this country has been run disastrously, even the Thatcher years, But then the Tory would make cutbacks like the way they are doing now, the last time they were in power, they reduced the country to a shambles.

The first thing l would do, is Increase the Police service, at the moment people are scared to walk the streets, due to robberies, rapes and murders, The way l would reduce the billions of pounds that the government is talking about, is reduce the government buildings that are a waste of time, l would freeze all building works on government building, it was said last year that a TORY MP paid £40.000 to redecorate his office, we have to save money, but l would do this at the top,.

We need Hospital staff, we need education, we need vital services, we can get cuts through national wastage, people who retire etc we need investment and this will not be done, if we get rid of these services, we work for the future, can you imagine if a hospital was closed down, the staff would be on the dole, and it us us who pay the benefit in taxes. All this government are doing is saving money for there own pocket.

THE UK IS BROKE.WE HAVE NO MONEY.WE ONLY HAVE DEBTS AND WE ARE PAYING SO MUCH INTEREST ON THE MONEY WE BORROWED THAT WE WILL BE PAYING OFF THE LOAN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.

how come you don't get the above Arthur.How do you not understand just how much debt we have?Where is the money to come from to pay for extra police?£40,000 will not cover more than twp policemen.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Quite simply this country has been run disastrously, even the Thatcher years, But then the Tory would make cutbacks like the way they are doing now, the last time they were in power, they reduced the country to a shambles.

The first thing l would do, is Increase the Police service, at the moment people are scared to walk the streets, due to robberies, rapes and murders, The way l would reduce the billions of pounds that the government is talking about, is reduce the government buildings that are a waste of time, l would freeze all building works on government building, it was said last year that a TORY MP paid £40.000 to redecorate his office, we have to save money, but l would do this at the top,.

We need Hospital staff, we need education, we need vital services, we can get cuts through national wastage, people who retire etc we need investment and this will not be done, if we get rid of these services, we work for the future, can you imagine if a hospital was closed down, the staff would be on the dole, and it us us who pay the benefit in taxes. All this government are doing is saving money for there own pocket.

So when was the golden age, Arthur? - when kiddies could walk the streets safely, and people could leave their doors unlocked, and Dixon of Dock Green patrolled the alleys and byways of your febrile imagination.

Your posts read as if someone has cut words out of a newspaper, thrown them up in the air, then typed them out in the order they landed - sense words make not do your.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

The first thing l would do, is Increase the Police service, at the moment people are scared to walk the streets, due to robberies, rapes and murders, The way l would reduce the billions of pounds that the government is talking about, is reduce the government buildings that are a waste of time, l would freeze all building works on government building, it was said last year that a TORY MP paid £40.000 to redecorate his office, we have to save money, but l would do this at the top,.

it would take 25,000 MPs saving £40,000 each to save just one billion pounds of debt - however there are only 650 MPs - do you intend increasing the number of MPs to make your plan work, Arthur?

We need Hospital staff, we need education, we need vital services, we can get cuts through national wastage, people who retire etc we need investment and this will not be done, if we get rid of these services, we work for the future, can you imagine if a hospital was closed down, the staff would be on the dole, and it us us who pay the benefit in taxes. All this government are doing is saving money for there own pocket.

Can you read that back to yourself then try to explain to the rest of us what you actually mean, please.

- apparently we 'work for the future' by getting rid of education & hospital staff, according to you?

Can you also explain what you mean by the government 'saving money for their own pocket' ?

- I thought they had to reduce expenditure to pay back massive debts ?

Having just read this thread in it's entirety i have come to the conclusion that
a) we are all going to die a horrible death via robbery,mugging,murder and general mayhem ,or
b)Arthurs madder than a mad thing from the planet mad

mmmm which is it i wonder

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I just hope that there will be a general strike in this country, to get rid of this crap government and what they are doing.

I watched a prog tonight, and the kick back of these cutback will be bad, and yet we have members saying where is this money coming from, I would rather a country that can generate work, and not cripple it.

I hope to god that especially in the country, there isn't anything drastic happens, as there will be no emergency services to cover it.

It must be awful, living in fear.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I just hope that there will be a general strike in this country, to get rid of this crap government and what they are doing.

I watched a prog tonight, and the kick back of these cutback will be bad, and yet we have members saying where is this money coming from, I would rather a country that can generate work, and not cripple it.

I hope to god that especially in the country, there isn't anything drastic happens, as there will be no emergency services to cover it.

That settles it then ,the countries screwed ,gone to hell in a handbasket ,i'm off to Mars on the next available flight

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

All this government are doing is saving money for there own pocket.

Right. They've this plan of cuts so that they can divert the money to their own pockets. Or it could be that there's a rather huge debt that we are putting onto the next generation's shoulders.

Personally for all your wittering about investment I'm not prepared to saddle my daughter with a ton of debt because I find not having the kind of services she'll end up only being able to dream of abhorrent.

The books balanced pre-Labour, they'll balance post Labour. At some point hopefully people will also learn again to look after themselves as they did before.

You've a really simple choice Arthur. Deal with the cuts or pay a lot more tax. I do mean a lot more, because right now the spending is a lot more than the tax income.

Except we can't pay a lot more tax because if we do companies and individuals will simply go and do their business elsewhere and we lose out.

The measures you mention won't be nearly enough. Aside from them being totally contradictory to other things you say they make little sense.

Yes we need vital services, what we don't need is Labour's apparent vision of there being a public sector worker to wipe our arses for us. We will still have vital municipal services when this process is done, the NHS will not be carved up, education will still work and, who knows, once people get it through their heads that 50% of the country are simply not cut out for University and stop trying to push them there and get some vocations going the economy might end up rebalanced more sustainably.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I just hope that there will be a general strike in this country, to get rid of this crap government and what they are doing.

I watched a prog tonight, and the kick back of these cutback will be bad, and yet we have members saying where is this money coming from, I would rather a country that can generate work, and not cripple it.

I hope to god that especially in the country, there isn't anything drastic happens, as there will be no emergency services to cover it.

Cognitive dissonance, or what.

[alferret]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I watched a prog tonight, and the kick back of these cutback will be bad, and yet we have members saying where is this money coming from, I would rather a country that can generate work, and not cripple it.

Hmmm So what you are saying arfur is that we should continue ad infinitum the way we have been going over tha last 13 years. You really need to get a grip on life my fiend (yes) because your planet isnt the same as the one the rest of us are living on.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I just hope that there will be a general strike in this country, to get rid of this crap government and what they are doing.

I watched a prog tonight, and the kick back of these cutback will be bad, and yet we have members saying where is this money coming from, I would rather a country that can generate work, and not cripple it.

I hope to god that especially in the country, there isn't anything drastic happens, as there will be no emergency services to cover it.

Sorry Arthur, the company I work for has increased turnover & earnings by over 10%, given us a pay rise & a decent bonus & are introducing an enhanced pension scheme - I doubt we will have many people, here, in favour of a general strike....

This country CAN generate work, but it takes everyone working together to achieve it - general strikes are not the way to do this, in my opinion.

Of course the 'kick-back' is going to be bad - WE OWE BILLIONS & BILLIONS OF POUNDS - stop denying that & become a part of the solution, not the problem.