There is trouble afoot - Page 3

PeteLockwood · 13-09-2010, 16:31

quite obiously the rules on strike action need ammending, perhaps those that are disposable should be fired it they take part in any such action punishing the very people paying there wages ? yeah that makes sense and is going to upset a lot of people but what can the government do WITH NO MONEY lets not forget labour did this to us! (started by the unions obviously) so in reality they are screwing us (again) selfish bastar.....!

Hom3r · 13-09-2010, 16:40

Unions do serve a purpose, but joing up is wrong.

When I was last in a Union (the head of which was a family friend) was very good and took no crap from manangement.

The trouble was the members, we wanted 4% rise the company offered 1.5%, we rejected, they raised to 2.5%, again rejected. we all gathered to discuss what we do next which was work to rule, but this failed because several people didn't want to because they needed the overtime (they based their morgage on salary + overtime, and couldn't pay it on basic wage) and as some of these women* had "bitches" who were scared to go against them.

As such we had to cave in and accept 2.5%.

*My mum worked in that department and wasn't a lamb, she was sent to conventry. But didn't give a dam as she was moving to another department.

Sirius · 13-09-2010, 16:49

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Bob Crow, general secretary of the Rail Maritime and Transport, has called for demonstrators to "sit down on motorways... protesting like we did against the poll tax".

What a complete idiot. Will he pay the compensation when some idiot that did as he said gets run over. ???

And what happens when a fire engine or Ambulance does not get to an emergency because Bob the idiot and his union bully boys has blocked the roads ???

punky · 13-09-2010, 17:47

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Originally Posted by Sirius

What a complete idiot. Will he pay the compensation when some idiot that did as he said gets run over. ???

And what happens when a fire engine or Ambulance does not get to an emergency because Bob the idiot and his union bully boys has blocked the roads ???

I'm all for it if he leads by example. I might even fancy a trip up north.

Also I used toplay Carmageddon so I do have some experience at this.

PeteLockwood · 13-09-2010, 17:51

during all this strike action over pay and jobs etc i wonder what the union top brass are on ?

punky · 13-09-2010, 18:21

Reading the paper on the way home - and with the unions threatening to cripple the country unless they get their own way - I wondered how I or anyone else could protest the unions. I haven't the faintest idea. Certainly not legally anyway.
Anyone think of anything?

Sirius · 13-09-2010, 18:22

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Originally Posted by PeteL

during all this strike action over pay and jobs etc i wonder what the union top brass are on ?

Nights over at meetings in top class hotels all paid for by those on strike who are NOT getting paid, Food on the table for there familys because they are getting paid, No mortgage to worry about as they are getting paid, Its a lucrative business for a union rep and leader to keep the work force out as long as possible..

PeteLockwood · 13-09-2010, 18:27

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Originally Posted by punky

Reading the paper on the way home - and with the unions threatening to cripple the country unless they get their own way - I wondered how I or anyone else could protest the unions. I haven't the faintest idea. Certainly not legally anyway.
Anyone think of anything?

i think it was 2000 when the fuel prices went silly and the truckers etc brought the country to a stand still i believe they changed the law so they could actually charge them under terrorism law (i could be wrong)

the unions are trying to hold the country (ultimately us) for ransom and to me this seems like borderline terrorism ?

also these warnings they are giving about the poll tax riots (i dont know much about them) the MILITANT unions are causing it out of there own greed

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Nights over at meetings in top class hotels all paid for by those on strike who are NOT getting paid, Food on the table for there familys because they are getting paid, No mortgage to worry about as they are getting paid, Its a lucrative business for a union rep and leader to keep the work force out as long as possible..

they probably wont even have mortgages i read somewere a while ago that several union top brass are into the 100's of k's per year salary

13-09-2010, 18:31

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Originally Posted by punky

Reading the paper on the way home - and with the unions threatening to cripple the country unless they get their own way - I wondered how I or anyone else could protest the unions. I haven't the faintest idea. Certainly not legally anyway.
Anyone think of anything?

simply by not complying .The likes of Crow forget that it's 2010 now and most of their membership own houses ,2 cars ect,ect not like the 70's early 80's when the membership all lived in council houses and only went to blackpool for their hols.Peoples financial commitments are much greater now than then and cannot afford to suffer any earning loss at all

Sirius · 13-09-2010, 18:43

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Originally Posted by martyh

simply by not complying .The likes of Crow forget that it's 2010 now and most of their membership own houses ,2 cars ect,ect not like the 70's early 80's when the membership all lived in council houses and only went to blackpool for their hols.Peoples financial commitments are much greater now than then and cannot afford to suffer any earning loss at all

13-09-2010, 19:41

The Telegraph have summed up the situation quite well, similar in fact to some replies in this thread.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/t...-the-sand.html

I was wondering about Labours views on this subject before I read the Telegraph's view, the last paragraph of the comment explained it very well in my opinion.

PeteLockwood · 13-09-2010, 19:48

labour attacked almost all the conservatives cuts, but had this been reverse role like the article suggests labour would of ultimately had to do the same thing!

13-09-2010, 19:51

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Originally Posted by PeteL

labour attacked almost all the conservatives cuts, but had this been reverse role like the article suggests labour would of ultimately had to do the same thing!

But would they? as i recall Brown was constantly telling us how financially fit we were to pull out of the recession ,how well things were going ,blah,blah,blah,drivel,drivel,drivel

PeteLockwood · 13-09-2010, 19:57

labour and the unions are in it together (for obvious reasons) and if labour would of got in they would of bowed to the unions (in the civil sector, that's were there funding comes from) and screwed the rest of us ? they would have carried on borrowing to look after there own

13-09-2010, 20:00

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Originally Posted by PeteL

or on another note they could have carried on borrowing and living in sin ?

Indeed ,it would have been the only way to cover up the lie