Ban the burkha ? - Page 50

Osem · 19-07-2010, 16:03

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10684359

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Female students wearing a full face veil will be barred from Syrian university campuses, the country's minister of higher education has said.

broadbandking · 19-07-2010, 18:35

well done that minister - about time our countries ministers grew some and banned the burka

**Hugh** · 19-07-2010, 18:41

tbf, the Syrian ban is only on campuses, not nationwide.

frogstamper · 19-07-2010, 23:48

Is this woman in her right mind?? I thought my lot were gutless in power when it came to this monstrosity, but now we have a Tory woman minister claiming that "the burhka can be empowering", has she flipped.?

Having been to Afghanistan she understands how "the burhka can confer dignity", I'm sure all those Afghan women feel very dignified being made to wear a mobile tent every single time they want to leave their homes. I can't find the words that would be acceptable on this forum to adequately describe my utter contempt and disdain for this stupid misguided women.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/7897...mpowering.html

papa smurf · 16-08-2010, 06:39

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

Is this woman in her right mind?? I thought my lot were gutless in power when it came to this monstrosity, but now we have a Tory woman minister claiming that "the burhka can be empowering", has she flipped.?

Having been to Afghanistan she understands how "the burhka can confer dignity", I'm sure all those Afghan women feel very dignified being made to wear a mobile tent every single time they want to leave their homes. I can't find the words that would be acceptable on this forum to adequately describe my utter contempt and disdain for this stupid misguided women.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/7897...mpowering.html

the mind just boggles --- "the burhka can be empowering"
the woman's mad

wwe · 16-08-2010, 12:51

what places are they banned in? i did hear france was 1 of them.

papa smurf · 19-08-2010, 15:53

Muslim Disneyland employee outraged after she's told she 'cannot wear her hijab to work'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...#ixzz0x4GCsxvf

Muslim woman who hasn't shown her face in public for 18 years ordered to remove veil to give evidence in Australian court

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...#ixzz0x4JcIX7q

Gary L · 19-08-2010, 17:23

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Muslim woman who hasn't shown her face in public for 18 years ordered to remove veil to give evidence in Australian court

I was going to post that one.
they need to see her facial expressions. a lot easier than watching the eyes to tell whether she's grinning.

**Hugh** · 19-08-2010, 18:46

And here's the bits the Mail "forgot" to mention.....

Adelaide Now

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Prosecution witness Tasneem, 36, who does not wish her surname to be published, has worn the burqa, also referred to in court as the niqab, since the age of 17 and wanted to wear it while giving evidence.

Tasneem only removes the niqab when she visits the doctor, dentist, airport Customs and when she has her driver's licence photo taken.

Otherwise, only her husband, children and blood male relatives have seen her without the niqab.

The defence had raised concerns about how the jury could be expected to read Tasneem's facial expressions if they could not see her face.

She was not in court to hear the decision but has said previously she would comply with the court decision.

papa smurf · 19-08-2010, 18:56

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

And here's the bits the Mail "forgot" to mention.....

Adelaide Now

"Tasneem only removes the niqab when she visits the doctor, dentist, airport Customs and when she has her driver's licence photo taken."

and now when in court

**Hugh** · 19-08-2010, 18:58

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

"Tasneem only removes the niqab when she visits the doctor, dentist, airport Customs and when she has her driver's licence photo taken."

and now when in court

Yup - not a problem for her to do so when requested by the appropriate authorities, but the Mail "forgot" to mention that.

Gary L · 19-08-2010, 19:09

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

"Tasneem only removes the niqab when she visits the doctor, dentist, airport Customs and when she has her driver's licence photo taken."

How often does she have her driver's licence photo took?

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and now when in court

Goes without saying really.

**Hugh** · 19-08-2010, 19:50

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Goes without saying really.

Pity you don't..........

nomadking · 19-08-2010, 20:02

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The defence has argued that her whole face should be seen so the jury could decide on the veracity of her evidence.

But prosecutor Mark Ritter told the court that Tasneem had not shown her face in public in more than 18 years and would find it stressful to reveal her features to strange men.

So before the case started, someone must have been given the impression that she would not remove it. There was obviously a discussion in court as both sides in the case had this impression, and the Judge had to rule on the issue.

**Hugh** · 19-08-2010, 21:03

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Originally Posted by nomadking

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So before the case started, someone must have been given the impression that she would not remove it. There was obviously a discussion in court as both sides in the case had this impression, and the Judge had to rule on the issue.

I put it to you that that is an assumption on your part, and suggest that unless you have evidence to support that assumption, that statement is not admissable nor verifiable, and should be struck from the record.*

*doing my best legal eagle bolleaux, as relayed to me by my senior CPS friend.