Muslim Anti Terror Camp

[TheDaddy]

Great idea

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10900478

[nomadking]

The fact that it is felt to be needed says it all.

What a great way for wannabe terrorists to meet.
Here's another place where they will get together:-
13-storey Islamic cultural centre

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by nomadking

The fact that it is felt to be needed says it all.

Pity, I was kind of thinking there'd be 100% support for it, still guess people will allways find a reason to moan.

What a great way for wannabe terrorists to meet

With statements like that, it makes me wonder why they're bothering at all.

[Russ]

So people moan when they think Muslims aren't doing enough to combat extremism from within and now they have this camp some people still aren't happy.

[speedfreak]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Pity, I was kind of thinking there'd be 100% support for it, still guess people will allways find a reason to moan.



With statements like that, it makes me wonder why they're bothering at all.

Agreed.

My only negative thought is its a shame it didnt happen sooner rather than leaving it a few years for extremism to take hold.

Hopefully good will come of it, no matter what race/religion, theres loads of youngsters out there easily influenced just needing the right guidance. About time something was done anyway

[nomadking]

So the Muslims with the greatest potential to become terrorists are the ones that will choose to attend this event, because they want to be made to see the error of their ways?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by nomadking

So the Muslims with the greatest potential to become terrorists are the ones that will choose to attend this event, because they want to be made to see the error of their ways?

I'd say it'd be parents who are concerned with what some are peddeling in the name of that religion who will send their children on the camp to help ensure that they never become terrorists.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Pity, I was kind of thinking there'd be 100% support for it, still guess people will allways find a reason to moan.



With statements like that, it makes me wonder why they're bothering at all.

100% support from me ,i see he is backing up what he said earlier in the year with positive actions
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...ism-fatwa.html

[nomadking]

The issue isn't the proclaimed intentions, but that facts that it is required at all and that it will have no real impact.

Are Muslims the last of any group to have an anti-terror camp or the only one needing it?

Originally Posted by nomadking

So the Muslims with the greatest potential to become terrorists are the ones that will choose to attend this event, because they want to be made to see the error of their ways?

What have you got against it ,this man is one the most respected clerics in the world ,it's people who have the potential to be terrorists that we want to attend and i think the idea that potential terrorists will not listen to him or his ideals shows how little you understand the respect in the muslim community that this man holds

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Originally Posted by nomadking

The issue isn't the proclaimed intentions, but that facts that it is required at all and that it will have no real impact.

Are Muslims the last of any group to have an anti-terror camp or the only one needing it?

I think "anti terror camp" is misleading ,the idea is not only to teach that terrorism is against the muslim faith but to re-educate young muslims in the basic principles of the faith ,to return to the core of muslim teaching . At least someone recognises the need for re-education instead of burying their heads and pretending the problem does not exist

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by nomadking

The fact that it is felt to be needed says it all.

What a great way for wannabe terrorists to meet.
Here's another place where they will get together:-
13-storey Islamic cultural centre

Yes. It does. It says that people are so ready to believe that all muslims are terrorists that this organisation feels the need to do something about it.

The fact you bought in an unrelated story also says a lot.

The fact the Daily Mail seems to have largely ignored the story, instead trumpeting the story of a British couple (although seeing as they are call Gul and Begum, they don't fit the Mail's normal definition of British) shot as part of an "honour killing" also says bucketloads..

[nomadking]

I suppose people should give him a chance as he hasn't been doing it for that long. Only 30 years? You only have to look around the world for the massive impact he has made. Sudan, Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, Somalia, Nigeria, India , Pakistan (and I'm sure that there are many others) are not in the middle east.

Muhammad Tahir ul Qadri is a leading figure who has promoted peace and interfaith dialogue for 30 years.

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

Yes. It does. It says that people are so ready to believe that all muslims are terrorists that this organisation feels the need to do something about it.

The fact you bought in an unrelated story also says a lot.

The fact the Daily Mail seems to have largely ignored the story, instead trumpeting the story of a British couple (although seeing as they are call Gul and Begum, they don't fit the Mail's normal definition of British) shot as part of an "honour killing" also says bucketloads..

So is it to actually reduce terrorism or just to stop people believing Muslims are terrorists without reducing terrorism?

Unrelated story? It is a another place where Muslims are determined not to integrate with non-Muslims.

Well, 'Guardian/Observer' are also ignoring the camp, but are also reporting the immigration scam/'honour killing'.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by nomadking

I suppose people should give him a chance as he hasn't been doing it for that long. Only 30 years? You only have to look around the world for the massive impact he has made. Sudan, Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, Somalia, Nigeria, India , Pakistan (and I'm sure that there are many others) are not in the middle east.

Sarcasm aside, is it not good that someone is attempting to do something positive to reduce the effects of extremism?

Doing negative things (like banning religion, which is what some on here have suggested) will only help reinforce the image that muslim believers are somehow being persecuted for their beliefs, and will only increase extremism.

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Originally Posted by nomadking

[/COLOR]Unrelated story? It is a another place where Muslims are determined not to integrate with non-Muslims.

Well, 'Guardian/Observer' are also ignoring the camp, but are also reporting the immigration scam/'honour killing'.

Did you even read the story you posted? The stated aim of the organisation backing this cultural centre is "to achieve a tipping point in Muslim-West relations within the next decade, steering the world back to the course of mutual recognition and respect".

Doesn't sound to me like they are trying to exclude non-muslims.. Rather the opposite.

[nomadking]

I thought that the alleged unrelated story you were referring to, was the link about the 13-storey Islamic cultural centre. Especially as that was the only story referred to, in my post apart from the current topic.

[Russ]

Some people are happy to be anti-Muslim regardless of the headlines.