[Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition

We all know cuts are going to be deep and painful and most of us know why thats the case the last labour government did what they always do they spent money they didn't have racking up debt and now it has got to be paid back and they have let as always someone else get power and have to do the dirty work. In this one respect i am sorry labour didn't get back in because they knew this issue had to be dealt with darling to his credit admitted that whoever got into power after the election was going to have to make cuts that would at least go as far as the thatcher cuts in the eighties and more then likely be worse then those cuts.

But i have no doubt at all that there are those so blinded that they would have excused labour and the damage it did for a handful of more promises of this and that whether they were ever delivered or not. Labour right before the election again was prepared to throw money around in a desperate attempt to bribe votes promising huge amounts of money for scotland, wales and NI even though they knew absolutely the country could not afford to do it thats how prudent GB was and how capable labour were in dealing with the economy everything you need to know about labour handling of the economy is right there to be seen by all.

Good riddance to bad rubbish and lets hope this time the memory of the electorate is better then normal and doesn't return the labour party to power anytime soon. However this coalition turns out they cannot be anywhere near as bad as labour was and i would bet good money that by the end of their tenure this country will be in a far better state then when labour left it, but they need time to do this and patience from the people of the UK.

[Xaccers]

They played Brown's 3 envelope speach on the radio earlier.

Upon assuming the Premiership, Mr Brown is advised by his PPS that it is a tradition for his predecessor to prepare three envelopes that can be opened in time of crisis. Each envelope contains the highest level of advice.

Experiencing his first major crisis, Brown summons his PPS and asks for the first envelope. He opens it and reads, "blame your predecessor for everything." Following this sage advice, Brown's popularity briefly rises. Inevitably, however, he finds himself again in the single-digits a few months later and accordingly summons his PPS to demand the second envelope. Opening it, he reads, "tell them everything will be better in the future." Following this advice, Brown's poll ratings once again climb briefly but alas they plunge then to even greater depths than hitherto. In desperation, Brown asks for the third envelope. Hastily he tears it open. It says, "prepare three envelopes..."

Originally Posted by Gary L

His name is "Dave"

No - his name is Dave, or David.

He, like most people, does not have quotes around his Christian name - just like Gordon Brown (born James Gordon Brown), Tony Blair (born Anthony Blair), Ed Balls (christened Edward Balls), Ed Miliband (christened Edward Miliband), Jack Straw (christened John Whitaker Straw), Jim Murphy (christened James Murphy), Bob Ainsworth (christened Robert William Ainsworth), and Ben Bradshaw (christened Benjamin Peter James Bradshaw) don't have quotes around their Christian names.

[Ignitionnet]

Anyone remember my posting about how Newcastle would vote for a vomit covered turd if it had a red rosette?

Well...

http://order-order.com/2010/05/18/anyone-for-bingo/

As the rush for seats, desks and bag-carriers makes way for the start of a new school term, spare a moment for one newbie MP who doesn’t seem too fussed about being sworn in to her recently won office or taking part in her ancient constitutional duty to elect the Speaker.

Chi Onwurah, Labour’s Newcastle newbie, asked at a meeting of the new MPs last week whether attendance today was strictly compulsory as she already had somewhere better to be. It turns out she had been asked to call the bingo numbers in her constituency.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...2703-26445740/

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Apart from the six million pounds planned from public services.

Maybe it can come from some of the last minute vote grabbing money thrown about in the last few months.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8690312.stm

Civil service chiefs lodged formal protests at spending decisions by Labour ministers in the dying months of their rule

The sad thing is some people still think labour did a good job and would sort everything out with their magic bag of money if they did get back into power.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Amusing from someone who insists on calling the Prime Minister "Dave", and described him and by implication 10.6 million Tory voters

There are differant rules depending on the mood

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Maybe it can come from some of the last minute vote grabbing money thrown about in the last few months.[/B]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8690312.stm





The sad thing is some people still think labour did a good job and would sort everything out with their magic bag of money if they did get back into power.

Normal Labour party rules of Electioneering

Originally Posted by Derek S

Maybe it can come from some of the last minute vote grabbing money thrown about in the last few months.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8690312.stm





The sad thing is some people still think labour did a good job and would sort everything out with their magic bag of money if they did get back into power.

Erk:

Prime Minister David Cameron has said his ministers have found examples of "crazy" spending, including paying out bonuses to three-quarters of all senior civil servants.
In response, former Chancellor Alistair Darling accused the new coalition government of "playing the oldest trick on the book" by blaming its predecessor for the state of the economy.

Quite right Alistair, how dare they blame Labour for the state of the economy, I mean, they've had a whole 7 days in office to sort it out. Time to take responsibility, eh?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Maybe it can come from some of the last minute vote grabbing money thrown about in the last few months.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8690312.stm

What an utterly appalling indictment of the last so called 'government'. Institutionalised economic vandalism..

Originally Posted by Derek S

The sad thing is some people still think labour did a good job and would sort everything out with their magic bag of money if they did get back into power.

Yup - makes you wonder what planet they live on doesn't it??....

[frogstamper]

Blimey haven't any of you Tory voters moved on yet?? The election was over a week ago and you are all still bashing the previous government, add to that apart from Fly-boy there are no left of center voters even bothering to argue anymore.
Your all moaning in a vacuum with literally nobody to question the standard,"Labour are crap, poor old Tories" line anymore, and you guys like to accuse liberals of bashing Thatcher for all the worlds ills...holy krud you have taken Brown and Labour bashing through the stratosphere!!!

[Neil22]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

Blimey haven't any of you Tory voters moved on yet?? The election was over a week ago and you are all still bashing the previous government, add to that apart from Fly-boy there are no left of center voters even bothering to argue anymore.
Your all moaning in a vacuum with literally nobody to question the standard,"Labour are crap, poor old Tories" line anymore, and you guys like to accuse liberals of bashing Thatcher for all the worlds ills...holy krud you have taken Brown and Labour bashing through the stratosphere!!!

They get moist in the little boys department when they speak about the Tories. Leave them to it.

If ever there was a dinosaur here he is



The Prime Minister has announced the appointment of Norman Baker, MP for Lewes, as Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Transport.

Mr Baker was born in Aberdeen and raised in Hornchurch, attending the Royal Liberty School in Gidea Park, before going on to earn a BA degree in German from the University of London.

Prior to entering the House of Commons in 1997 he had a variety of jobs, including periods as an executive for Our Price Records and as an English teacher. He also served as a local councillor in East Sussex before becoming Leader of Lewes District Council in 1991.

In recent years Mr Baker has held a number of portfolios in the Liberal Democrat Shadow Cabinet, including Shadow Minister for the Cabinet Office, Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, and Shadow Secretary of State for Transport.
Responsibilities

* Regional and Local Transport
* Buses and Taxis - including concessionary fares
* Walking and Cycling
* Accessibility and Equalities
* Alternatives to travel

Liberals hate all things Cars or Planes..the only thing they do like is Trains.

If ever a dinosaur got power this is one.

[Ignitionnet]

He's an under-secretary. He doesn't have the full transport portfolio else he'd be the Secretary of State. Next.

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

Blimey haven't any of you Tory voters moved on yet?? The election was over a week ago and you are all still bashing the previous government, add to that apart from Fly-boy there are no left of center voters even bothering to argue anymore.
Your all moaning in a vacuum with literally nobody to question the standard,"Labour are crap, poor old Tories" line anymore, and you guys like to accuse liberals of bashing Thatcher for all the worlds ills...holy krud you have taken Brown and Labour bashing through the stratosphere!!!

Left of centre and Liberal are different things. It's perfectly possible to be economically Conservative while socially liberal.

You're confusing liberalism with socialism. Given that Labour pursued an authoritarian socialist line can hardly describe a Labour voter as being liberal due to that vote. Expansion of the state, centralisation of powers and erosion of civil liberties doesn't strike me as being liberal, quite the opposite.

Given us 'Tory voters' (I along with a number of others voted Lib Dem but let's not facts interrupt the stereotypical bashing of the right) along with others are going to be suffering the pain for the now well reported economic abuse of the country by the left of centre for political and ideological reasons I'd say a good dose of catharsis is in order.

[Neil22]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

He's an under-secretary. He doesn't have the full transport portfolio else he'd be the Secretary of State. Next.

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Are they creating jobs for the boys??

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Neil22

Are they creating jobs for the boys??

Nope.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Neil22

Are they creating jobs for the boys??

No. Do have a read of the information on the Department for Transport both from Wikipedia and the DFT's own site. They aren't just randomly creating Under-Secretaries, you can get some idea of lineage though from the above information.

A better response would perhaps have been 'Ooops ok I see he's the Under-Secretary for one part of the transport infrastructures while there is another Under-Secretary whose portfolio is solely roads and highways.'

EDIT: Thought for the day - the average private sector HR manager makes 48k, the average charity sector HR manager makes 40k. The average public sector HR manager is worth 50k. This is purely salary and ignores benefits, pensions, etc.

[punky]

I'm already fed up with Clegg. Can we have another election please?