17-05-2010, 11:16
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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I'm alright with this if it is a step towards reforming the Lords to an elected chamber. If the idea is simply to create a majority so difficult legislation can be pushed through, it is just wrong and undemocratic, whatever the history of the Lords.
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There is always bound to be an aspect of majority-building - because of what the Lords currently is, it is simply unavoidable. Stuffing it with sympathetic life peers is just what you do. Labour has been at it for 13 years, which is why it currently has a Labour majority. It is an unfortunate business, but I think we can live with it as the end, apparently, is in sight.
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17-05-2010, 16:18
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
This time around adding peers to retain proportionality will only favour those who cooperate as a group, so all to the good IMHO.
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17-05-2010, 20:05
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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17-05-2010, 20:40
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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In other news, spending cuts haven't been made despite Tory/Libdems assurances they would make them, Labour laws haven't been repealed despite Tory/Libdems saying they would be, man hasn't gone to Mars, despite Obama saying man would...
...BBC continues to host anti-coalition articles on their website.
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17-05-2010, 20:44
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
In other news, spending cuts haven't been made despite Tory/Libdems assurances they would make them, Labour laws haven't been repealed despite Tory/Libdems saying they would be, man hasn't gone to Mars, despite Obama saying man would...
...BBC continues to host anti-coalition articles on their website.
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Now there's a place which deserves a few judicious cuts in their bloated budget....
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17-05-2010, 20:49
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
In other news, spending cuts haven't been made despite Tory/Libdems assurances they would make them, Labour laws haven't been repealed despite Tory/Libdems saying they would be, man hasn't gone to Mars, despite Obama saying man would...
...BBC continues to host anti-coalition articles on their website.
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Apart from the six million pounds planned from public services.
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17-05-2010, 20:52
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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Apart from the six million pounds planned from public services.
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Nice to see irony is lost on you Mandy.
Did you not notice that all of the things I'd mentioned (except the BBC comment) haven't happened yet because there hasn't been enough time to impliment them?
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17-05-2010, 20:57
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
No, that'll be next week.
Don't you think name calling s a bit puerile?
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17-05-2010, 20:58
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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Apart from the six million pounds planned from public services.
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You mean £6billion of course.... Well someone has to pay for all that New Labour profligacy or do you suggest UK PLC applies for bankruptcy and walks away from all its debts?....
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17-05-2010, 21:55
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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No, that'll be next week.
Don't you think name calling s a bit puerile?
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Amusing from someone who insists on calling the Prime Minister "Dave", and described him and by implication 10.6 million Tory voters
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He is foremost a Tory and nothing they have ever said could be described as decent, truthful or honourable
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17-05-2010, 21:57
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
It would be handy for you to consider some perspective and context. 
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17-05-2010, 21:59
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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You mean £6billion of course.... Well someone has to pay for all that New Labour profligacy or do you suggest UK PLC applies for bankruptcy and walks away from all its debts?....
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Re spending plans, you appear to be confusing not spending money the country doesn't have (including on huge IT projects and management consultants) with £6 billion cuts in Public Services (but nice try at spinning, though).
Less than 1% difference in spending plans (hattip to Guido Fawkes)
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It would be handy for you not to be so tribalist and spinny....
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18-05-2010, 11:52
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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Re spending plans, you appear to be confusing not spending money the country doesn't have (including on huge IT projects and management consultants) with £6 billion cuts in Public Services (but nice try at spinning, though).
Less than 1% difference in spending plans (hattip to Guido Fawkes) |
Less than one per cent overall. Seeing as departments such as defence, health and overseas aid is supposedly ring-fenced (yeah, I won't be holding my breath on those), it is going to be considerably deeper and far more extensive elsewhere.
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18-05-2010, 12:13
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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Amusing from someone who insists on calling the Prime Minister "Dave", and described him and by implication 10.6 million Tory voters |
... and someone who's so passionately against prejudice and stereotyping when it suits.. 
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18-05-2010, 13:20
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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Amusing from someone who insists on calling the Prime Minister "Dave",
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His name is "Dave"
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