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Old 13-05-2010, 12:18   #601
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Re: Ban the burkha ?

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This is the kind of thing I was concerned about many pages back in this thread. People using them as a disguise to commit crime.
He chose the burkha because he knew he wouldn't be challenged in the sense of getting closer than you would in a helmet or balaclava.

I find this part funny.
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"His disguise was so distinctive we are hoping someone recalls seeing him or even knows who he is."
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Old 13-05-2010, 12:23   #602
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Re: Ban the burkha ?

On the subject of 'religious items' being used for criminal purposes, perhaps prayer books should be banned as well?
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Old 13-05-2010, 13:50   #603
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Re: Ban the burkha ?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/b...ts/8678243.stm

This is the kind of thing I was concerned about many pages back in this thread. People using them as a disguise to commit crime.
Although the same concerns could be raised with ANY headgear and are more an indication of the problems of relying on CCTV...
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Re: Ban the burkha ?

And there tends to be signs requiring removal of other types of head/face covering items prior to entry to banks etc.

How comfortable would people be in dealing with a person for a period of time while that person was wearing for example, a ski mask.
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Re: Ban the burkha ?

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And there tends to be signs requiring removal of other types of head/face covering items prior to entry to banks etc.

How comfortable would people be in dealing with a person for a period of time while that person was wearing for example, a ski mask.
Just a ski mask?
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Re: Ban the burkha ?

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How comfortable would people be in dealing with a person for a period of time while that person was wearing for example, a ski mask.
It depends on the activity I suppose. If you're out skiing...
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Although the same concerns could be raised with ANY headgear and are more an indication of the problems of relying on CCTV...
I know, however iirc at the time I posted I could not find a link to illustrate what I was going on about.
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Re: Ban the burkha ?

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There are many,many highly educated people such as say physicists,doctors,University lecturers,philosophers,psychiatrists who believe in a religion.
They may be highly educated, but that doesn't mean they're very clever. If they were, I doubt very much they actually 'believe' but just like to be part of the club.
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They may be highly educated, but that doesn't mean they're very clever. If they were, I doubt very much they actually 'believe' but just like to be part of the club.
So only the stupid can be religious? Interesting theory...
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They may be highly educated, but that doesn't mean they're very clever. If they were, I doubt very much they actually 'believe' but just like to be part of the club.
a) I wonder if it's possible to be highly educated without being clever? (I believe it's possible to be clever without being highly educated).

b) Hell of an assumption there.
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They may be highly educated, but that doesn't mean they're very clever. If they were, I doubt very much they actually 'believe' but just like to be part of the club.
They might have even auditioned at one time or another for 'Britains Got Talent'
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So only the stupid can be religious? Interesting theory...
its probably not compulsory just preferred
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a) I wonder if it's possible to be highly educated without being clever? (I believe it's possible to be clever without being highly educated).
Yes, someone can spend years at school, then college and uni, be very knowledgeable but not very clever, nor wise.
Many educated people are unable to work out how to use a VCR, or put together Ikea furniture, or really think for themselves.
They may know a lot, but they aren't free thinkers.
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a) I wonder if it's possible to be highly educated without being clever? (I believe it's possible to be clever without being highly educated).
Once upon a time, a degree course either trained you for a highly complex vocation (for example, in engineering or the sciences), or else it just trained you how to think, the better to equip you for any of a range of less technically specialised roles in life. This, of course, was the good old general arts degree ... History, English Lit and the like.

Sadly these days, the politically motivated rush to get everyone who wants one a bit of paper with 'degree' scrawled on it has led to an explosion of vocational courses and a generation of people who have wasted three years learning a narrow subject (there were some students on TV the other day who were engaged on a three year degree course in how to design well-drained sports pitches - I kid you not) such that they know all the ins and outs of that subject but are woefully lacking when it comes to the general study and analysis skills that are so useful in life.
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