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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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The other thing forgotten with fuel rises are increased costs to the supermarkets and public transport. So even switching to the bus is not an option.
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exactly ,i think if any more duties go on petrol then the new government will have some real headaches to cope with
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13-05-2010, 16:36
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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The other thing forgotten with fuel rises are increased costs to the supermarkets and public transport. So even switching to the bus is not an option.
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that will be on top of the VAT rise.
Thank to Ant & Dec.
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13-05-2010, 16:38
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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I never blamed thatcher, plus who can GB be blamed for the last 20 years when Labout was only in for 13?
What I was saying is that all the worlds markets have fallen, and even if GB was completely incompetent, he cannot be blamed for other countries.
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he can be blamed for the next twenty years [thats his legacy ]
but we do seem to agree he was "completely incompetent" . 
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13-05-2010, 16:48
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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he can be blamed for the next twenty years [thats his legacy ]
but we do seem to agree he was "completely incompetent" . |
So GB can be blamed for the next 20, but the tories cannot be blamed for the 13 years after the lost?
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13-05-2010, 16:50
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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So GB can be blamed for the next 20, but the tories cannot be blamed for the 13 years after the lost?
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they have been blamed -but now theres a new guy to point the finger at -GB.
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13-05-2010, 17:03
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
I'm still blaming Thatcher for the socially divisive manner she ran the country, not to mention the destruction of our industrial base which could be said to be at the root of all our current and future problems so I don't see why Toryites wont do the same to GB.
For the time being I'm giving Cameron the benefit of the doubt, he does at least seem to be putting the well-being of the country ahead of ideology. Whether the rest of his party will allow him to see that through remains to be seen.
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13-05-2010, 17:18
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
it isn't a fairy tale and most scots don't want the union so where annabel goldie the tory leader in scotland gets her answers thats most scots don't want independence from is beyond me - she prob makes it up as she goes along
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13-05-2010, 17:26
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
I can't say I'm thrilled about the prospect of higher VAT and I'm in a group that will pay more tax generally to balance the increase to the Income Tax allowance but we have to start paying our bills sooner or later.
Not overjoyed but expected given how badly Labour ran the finances.
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13-05-2010, 17:26
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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it isn't a fairy tale and most scots don't want the union so where annabel goldie the tory leader in scotland gets her answers thats most scots don't want independence from is beyond me - she prob makes it up as she goes along
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Most Scots don't want independence. That my friend is a fact. Even Right honourable Alex Smug Salmond couldn't furnish you with figures to support your assertion.
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13-05-2010, 17:32
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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I'm still blaming Thatcher ...
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... the destruction of our industrial base ...
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You might want to blame the unions for that. Just as the unions are destroying Royal Mail and British Airways.
Anyway, what are your thoughts on the selling of most of the UKs gold reserves?
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13-05-2010, 17:33
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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Most Scots don't want independence. That my friend is a fact. Even Right honourable Alex Smug Salmond couldn't furnish you with figures to support your assertion.
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I believe most Scots don't want to break free, beause they know that without the cash the UK as a whole pays they would be in the brown stuff.
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13-05-2010, 18:43
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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it isn't a fairy tale and most scots don't want the union so where annabel goldie the tory leader in scotland gets her answers thats most scots don't want independence from is beyond me - she prob makes it up as she goes along
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*Cough*
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ecord-low.html
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The YouGov survey shows only 27 per cent of Scots would support independence in a referendum compared to 55 per cent who are opposed.
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Anyway seeing the libdems have a couple of Scottish MP's the coalition can't say they have no support north of the border.
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13-05-2010, 19:15
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
Final warning: can we please keep the nationalist bleating OUT of this thread. It is off topic. If you want to discuss the way the new Westminster government affects Scotland, START A NEW THREAD. Henceforth I will be dishing out infractions for ignoring the two moderator requests I have made in this thread today.
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13-05-2010, 19:19
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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So any news on the 2.5% VAT hike (will become 20%) the news was talking about this morning?
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So if this does happen, all those who voted for the current govenment CANNOT complain about it.
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Do you seriously think that if Labour had somehow remained in power, VAT would have stayed at 17.5%, given the massive deficit we have?
No party specifically ruled out a VAT increase in their manifesto.
BBC Newsnight - Paul Mason: Labour Manifesto: VAT rise left open
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Since no party has ruled out raising VAT, and since VAT is the only way to raise extra tax if you rule out raising income tax (and corporation tax take remains depressed because of low growth and business flight), I think it is fair to read these signals as a sign that a VAT rise is a distinct possibility under any of the three main parties.
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I don't like the idea of VAT going up to 20%, but I think it is naive to believe that the rise would not have happened under Labour either. They need to find money somewhere... 
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Anyway, what are your thoughts on the selling of most of the UKs gold reserves?
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At least Gordon didn't use "Cash4Gold"
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13-05-2010, 19:26
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Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
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At least Gordon didn't use "Cash4Gold" |
Shame. He probably could have got a better rate.
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