[Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition

[Ignitionnet]

I thought some more and the Tories were damned if they let the 3rd runway happen, nasty Tories lining the pockets of big business and ignoring the little people, and damned if they prevented it.

Harsh as it seems there's no guarantee in the job market for any of us of always going up in salary as we change jobs, or indeed being assured of having one. I personally have lost a job and taken another which paid only half the salary of the previous one. It sucked, it wasn't fair, sadly life isn't fair and I needed a job, any job.

I didn't settle for it though and was on my way back up before too long

EDIT: Is it just me or has the way I write changed a bit over the months, getting somewhat posher in terms of how I express things? Little diversion there...

Ok. Foreverwar and Ignitionnet, one of you needs to change your avatars!

[injuneer]

I think most people are suspicious of politicians & their motives as usually when they open their mouths lies come out. Maybe this will be different, we will see.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Nice try to spin. His party, with him at the helm, gained the largest amount of votes nationally and the largest amount of seats. The result being that a coalition with his party as the main group can be formed. Not quite the same as a transfer of power without even an internal party election mid way through parliament.

As said above your tribalism cheapens the discussion. Even I at my most tribal did not go as far as saying that nothing Labour ever did was decent, truthful or honourable, quite the opposite I have complimented them on some of their achievements. You are simply not open to any kind of discussion on this matter as you are so stubbornly anti-Tory.

It's amusing that in other threads you criticise people for being prejudiced, etc, yet make comments like the above. A comment from the BBC page comes to mind.



These past few days have been largely statemanship and good politics at its' finest. Two not necessarily compatible parties coming together, accepting differences, compromising and hammering out a way forward despite, not because of, party views as opposed to Labour taking a similar view to the one in the quote above and essentially offering the Lib Dems their manifesto.

The same inflexibility you show with your unwavering belief that you're right was the same one Labour showed by all accounts, and is one of the reasons they are now the opposition despite the unwavering support of their Tory-hating base.

I'm sure I've asked this before but I'll ask again - what is the nature of your business? What do you do / produce? Is it something that will suffer under ConLib such as, I don't know, CCTV cameras or advanced biometrics, maybe DNA profiling equipment?

I didn't see you you criticising other posters when they declared their dislike for the Labour party, wheere were your accusations of tribalism then? Am I not allowed an opinion, or is it just the one opinion I am allowed to have, the one that agrees with the rest of the Tory supporters on this forum?

I cannot say that I have seen many posts where you have praised the Labour party, I must have missed them.

Originally Posted by Damien

Ok. Foreverwar and Ignitionnet, one of you needs to change your avatars!

Why?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

Ok. Foreverwar and Ignitionnet, one of you needs to change your avatars!

you lot have 5 seats and now your trying to run the world

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Why?

They were the same. Confused me!

[punky]

Originally Posted by Damien

I didn't vote Conservative, In fact I quite like Labour!

The irony is that the Tories have a much better record on civil liberties than Labour. One of the easiest things to sort out in the coalition was civil liberties as both sides were pretty much side-by-side on all issues of note. I don't even think any concession were made on either side. The only ones really were financial.

Originally Posted by punky

The irony is that the Tories have a much better record on civil liberties than Labour. One of the easiest things to sort out in the coalition was civil liberties as both sides were pretty much side-by-side on all issues of note. I don't even think any concession were made on either side. The only ones really were financial.

I agree with that. Like I said, I didn't vote for them.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

I didn't see you you criticising other posters when they declared their dislike for the Labour party, wheere were your accusations of tribalism then? Am I not allowed an opinion, or is it just the one opinion I am allowed to have, the one that agrees with the rest of the Tory supporters on this forum?

Actually I have. I don't have time to find links now but I've certainly said words to the effect of 'Now, now they haven't been all bad' to another poster.

Originally Posted by Flyboy

I cannot say that I have seen many posts where you have praised the Labour party, I must have missed them.

I have little praise for the Labour Party, some of their policies however I have praised.

Big difference, you hate the Tories on general principle and claim they have not and will never do anything even remotely appropriate, I'm perfectly happy to say Labour did some things, such as smoking ban and minimum wage to name two, that were good.

Your reprimanding of other posters over intolerance yet it's fine for you to dish out baseless stereotypes when it suits.

Again by the way I didn't vote Tory in the election, I voted Liberal Democrat, which rather messes up whatever point you were trying to make. That I'm excited about the possibilities of this coalition and vehemently oppose the Labour party appears to not sit too well with yourself it would seem.

We are still no closer to finding out what the company you work for actually do. Are you standing to lose some lucrative public sector contracts? To be as utterly one-sided as you are either requires there to be some self-interest or to be a moron. You're clearly not a moron, morons don't run successful businesses, so I'm curious as to the self-interest.

[SB_07]

Will be interesting to see how this pans out in the next month or two. I don't hold much hope though. I also despise the Tories.

[frogstamper]

Folks just a suggestion, now the election is over hows about we "all" stop this infantile point scoring against each-other either knocking everything the Tories do or snide comments about Labour?
I think all of us know who everybody else follows so there is absolutely no point in trying to score just one more point...why not just comment on the current situation without little digs at what others truly believe in.
Heh its just a thought, otherwise the conversation always ends up going down the pan.

Just to add in my two penneth, the LD's were damned whatever they did, but in my opinion I think they have done the right thing, anyone who voted for them at least has a good chance now of seeing a fair amount of their manifesto being brought into law, plus as mentioned earlier a coalition between the pair of them puts paid to any dopey ideological fantasies either of them might have wished to bring in had they got a majority.

[SB_07]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

Folks just a suggestion, now the election is over hows about we "all" stop this infantile point scoring against each-other either knocking everything the Tories do or snide comments about Labour?
I think all of us know who everybody else follows so there is absolutely no point in trying to score just one more point...why not just comment on the current situation without little digs at what others truly believe in.
Heh its just a thought, otherwise the conversation always ends up going down the pan.

Just to add in my two penneth, the LD's were damned whatever they did, but in my opinion I think they have done the right thing, anyone who voted for them at least has a good chance now of seeing a fair amount of their manifesto being brought into law, plus as mentioned earlier a coalition between the pair of them puts paid to any dopey ideological fantasies either of them might have wished to bring in had they got a majority.

Just summed up Politics pretty much.

Originally Posted by Flyboy

I suppose one positive is that idiotic excuse for a human being, Michael Gove, won't have a job in cabinet.[COLOR="Silver"]

<chuckles>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8675705.stm

EDUCATION SECRETARY - MICHAEL GOVE

</chuckles>

[Hom3r]

You can tell when a politician lies, You an see his lips move

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My new pet name for Cameron & Clegg, "Ant & Dec"