Are Police to Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup ?

[TheDon]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

If a landlord allows unlawful practices to be carried out on the licensed premises, he is partly culpable. If he does not ensure the conduct and order of his customers, he is also liable.

Yes but that doesn't extend to having to vet his customers. Only to dealing with incidents when they occur.

There's a huge difference between allowing it, and it happening to happen on his premises. As long as when it happens it's dealt with then the Landlord has done nothing wrong, regardless of if they were following police guidance or not.

[iFrankie]

Thousands of people will be wearing an england top when the world cup starts, what are the police gonna do, fine every single person? and ask them to take it off? then you get another fine for being topless.

Just stupid.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by iFrankie

Just stupid.

Yes it would be. If it were true, but it isn't.

Besides the Police don't make up the laws, they can't just decide that wearing an England top is an offence.

[punky]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Punky, the only duty a landlord has is not to serve someone clearly over the limit, do you get that?
Closing a pub down because a landlord is not actively supporting the prevention of crime is bullocks.
Any prevention of crime, if wearing a shirt is a crime, is down to the police, nobody else.
That is what we pay their wages and pensions for and they retire at 50/55 with a nice wedge.
Why should landlords make up for the shortage of real police on the beat?
Feel free to answer.

When I quote the law, and you just make up random rubbish? Why should I?

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Read what you want Punky, you are still wrong.

I'll continue reading the law, you continue making up random rubbish then

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Yes it would be. If it were true, but it isn't.

Besides the Police don't make up the laws, they can't just decide that wearing an England top is an offence.

Amazing how many people think that the police can just make up laws and enforce them as they see fit.
Then again if it was scrawled in the Sun it must be true, surely Rupert wouldn't mislead he's readers??

[TheDon]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

Amazing how many people think that the police can just make up laws and enforce them as they see fit.

That probably has something to do with a fair number of the police seemingly thinking they can make up the laws and enforce them as they see fit.

Most frontline police officers have little idea over most of the laws they're meant to be enforcing, and so bring people in for things they think are crimes yet aren't (public photography being a great example).

[papa smurf]

if i had an England shirt and was sad enough to follow football ,i'd be really miffed

Originally Posted by frogstamper

Amazing how many people think that the police can just make up laws and enforce them as they see fit.
Then again if it was scrawled in the Sun it must be true, surely Rupert wouldn't mislead he's readers??

If the Met cannot be bothered to challenge what was said why should people believe otherwise?
It was apparently an advisory with a threat.
As I have said, if a pub wishes to have their own dress code, not swayed by the government and law of this country then that is fine by me, I can just take my england shirted body and wallet to another pub.
And the market will dictate which pubs get bigger tills to count up.
The police should not be trying to make their jobs easier by dictating who a business should allow in.
If things get out of order the police act then, not before just to make their jobs easier.
What will we have next?

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Originally Posted by punky

When I quote the law, and you just make up random rubbish? Why should I?



I'll continue reading the law, you continue making up random rubbish then

You continue reading the law as you see it.
Let the Met issue a statement declaring it Random Rubbish.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

You continue reading the law as you see it.
Let the Met issue a statement declaring it Random Rubbish.

Question for you. Have the Met, or any other Police force in the UK, ever issued a statement saying that the wearing of football strips in a pub is forbidden?

Originally Posted by iFrankie

Thousands of people will be wearing an england top when the world cup starts, what are the police gonna do, fine every single person? and ask them to take it off? then you get another fine for being topless.

Just stupid.

It is stupid, agree, but apparently, the met have not denied it, unless someone can point me to a link, you would not be able to get into those pubs that the police had advised if you have an england shirt on.
The police should have no say on dress codes, plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Derek S

Question for you. Have the Met, or any other Police force in the UK, ever issued a statement saying that the wearing of football strips in a pub is forbidden?

Answer for you, have the Met issued a statement denying the alleged?
It cannot be hard to do? there are I would assume, enough people in the PR department to see to it?

[Derek]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Answer for you, have the Met issued a statement denying the alleged?
It cannot be hard to do? there are I would assume, enough people in the PR department to see to it?

Excellent. I've heard the Met are going round screwing banks and building societies to deal with their budget issues. It must be true because they haven't denied it.

Your 'issues' with the Police are plain to see.
When you are ignoring what everyone else tells you, people pointing out the law in black and white to you and having no evidence whatsoever you still cling to the hope that they are dictating what people can and cannot wear it shows there is no hope of changing your mind.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Excellent. I've heard the Met are going round screwing banks and building societies to deal with their budget issues. It must be true because they haven't denied it.

Your 'issues' with the Police are plain to see.
When you are ignoring what everyone else tells you, people pointing out the law in black and white to you and having no evidence whatsoever you still cling to the hope that they are dictating what people can and cannot wear it shows there is no hope of changing your mind.

I'D wear my England shirt to the very death if i owned one ,and was sad enough to follow football ,i would defend my right to look like a complete prat in support of my working class heroes ,you'll never take me alive copper -look ma im on top of the world ,you dirty rats

[Derek]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

I'D wear my England shirt to the very death if i owned one

Of course as a Scotsman I'd be happy for it to be true and backed up with the death penalty

Mind you seeing as they are actually going to South Africa that may not be a million miles away from the truth.
Thats the real reason Scotland didn't qualify, it not because they are guff, its all a plan.

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

It is stupid, agree, but apparently, the met have not denied it, unless someone can point me to a link, you would not be able to get into those pubs that the police had advised if you have an england shirt on.
The police should have no say on dress codes, plain and simple.

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Answer for you, have the Met issued a statement denying the alleged?
It cannot be hard to do? there are I would assume, enough people in the PR department to see to it?

IT ISN'T TRUE.

It's a made up lie.NO police force anywhere in the UK has banned the wearing of England shirts..so no need to get your girdle all twisted..

[punky]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Answer for you, have the Met issued a statement denying the alleged?

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