Blair Peach murderer esapes justice

[Flyboy]

Despite the police knowing who killed him, they ignore the evidence and let him away with it. I wonder why. Yet again, another death caused by the Met goes unpunished.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Despite the police knowing who killed him, they ignore the evidence and let him away with it. I wonder why. Yet again, another death caused by the Met goes unpunished.

Yep the report names exactly who struck the fatal blow.

Mr Cass concludes that there was ''insufficient evidence to support proceedings against any person mentioned in this report''.

Unless of course you think the Police should get treated differently and charged where less evidence exists than other members of the public.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Yep the report names exactly who struck the fatal blow.



Unless of course you think the Police should get treated differently and charged where less evidence exists than other members of the public.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Yep the report names exactly who struck the fatal blow.

It names the officer most likely to have struck the fatal blow but given it could only have been one of six officers and they were responsible for 3 fractured skulls and a death in the space of seconds...

Unless of course you think the Police should get treated differently and charged where less evidence exists than other members of the public

Yes because the public often suppress reports into peoples deaths for over 30 years and lies at inquests about witness reports and recolitions of the incident, still what more do his family want, they got an apology they should be grateful because it's as close to justice as they'll get.

This report is over 30 years old.It's from a time when there were lot's of dubious practices going on in our public systems.I doubt if justice will be found after all this time.

What we need is to make sure that the present much more transparent systems/services continue to be transparent.

I do object to the word murderer though because I doubt that the death of Mr Peach was deliberate or premeditated under the circumstances.

[laptopsrd]

Sorry Maggie, but doubting Justice would be done after 30 years isnt a good reason not to bring charges against the 6 officers involved. There has been a cover up. plain and simple. I guess now we know if you can hide and obstruct for long enough you get away with a crime when it comes to light.

Of course if charges had been brought 30 years ago it would probably have been "justifiable homicide" a la Liddle Towers.

Originally Posted by laptopsrd

Sorry Maggie, but doubting Justice would be done after 30 years isnt a good reason not to bring charges against the 6 officers involved. There has been a cover up. plain and simple. I guess now we know if you can hide and obstruct for long enough you get away with a crime when it comes to light.

Of course if charges had been brought 30 years ago it would probably have been "justifiable homicide" a la Liddle Towers.

I never said that I just doubt that justice will be done..and sometimes it is seen to be done.There have been cases from the 70s and 80s where corrupt policemen have been brought to justice in the 90s and in the last decade.

It doesn't hurt to keep pressuring though.

Like I said we must make sure today's systems don't let us down in the same manner and that what we have gained isn't lost to the various terrorism laws since added to the statutes.

[punky]

Originally Posted by Derek S

Unless of course you think the Police should get treated differently and charged where less evidence exists than other members of the public.

Of course he does.

Originally Posted by Derek S

Yep the report names exactly who struck the fatal blow.



Unless of course you think the Police should get treated differently and charged where less evidence exists than other members of the public.

Peach's family have campaigned to see the crucial report for more than 30 years. It said it could "reasonably be concluded that a police officer struck the fatal blow". A police van carrying six officers was identified as having been at the scene when the fatal blow was struck.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/ap...ice-met-report

answer me this. What happens if 6 members of the public are present when someone loses their life and one of them is directly to blame? you want to be treated the same as the GP well all 6 would be in front of the judge and most likely after this report doing time...

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by zing

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/ap...ice-met-report

answer me this. What happens if 6 members of the public are present when someone loses their life and one of them is directly to blame? you want to be treated the same as the GP well all 6 would be in front of the judge and most likely after this report doing time...

Isn't there now a charge "joint enterprise?"

The police know exactly who the murder is. They are just supporting the cover up. If these officers have refused to admit they know who the killer is, why did they keep their jobs? It wouldn't be that the Met would not admit they were not interested in investigating it, would it? Back in the seventies if the Met couldn't work out, out of six people, who was the perpetrator, they would just pin it on the easiest target. Why didn't they do that then?

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Isn't there now a charge "joint enterprise?"

The police know exactly who the murder is. They are just supporting the cover up. If these officers have refused to admit they know who the killer is, why did they keep their jobs? It wouldn't be that the Met would not admit they were not interested in investigating it, would it? Back in the seventies if the Met couldn't work out, out of six people, who was the perpetrator, they would just pin it on the easiest target. Why didn't they do that then?

exactly

A friend of mine is a prison warder . She knows an inmate who is serving 15 years for being involved in a robbery where the other perp killed the victim with a shotgun. The other guy was involved in the robbery but had no idea( he says) the other guy had the gun till he got it out of the car and shot the victim

So to treat these 6 officers the same would mean they fall under this catagory ..

There is a major difference, imho, between 'reasonably be concluded' and 'beyond reasonable doubt', but they seem to being used synonymously.

Originally Posted by foreverwar

There is a major difference, imho, between 'reasonably be concluded' and 'beyond reasonable doubt', but they seem to being used synonymously.

oh thats ok then at least no one died .... oh wait a minute....

---------- Post added at 12:12 ---------- Previous post was at 12:10 ----------

Peach was almost certainly killed by an officer from its elite riot squad, known as the Special Patrol Group (SPG). A number of witnesses said they saw him being struck by a police officer, and the report found that "there is no evidence to show he received the injury to the side of his head in any other way".

from my former link

pretty damning dont you think? afteral they have witnesses

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by zing

from my former link

pretty damning dont you think? afteral they have witnesses

I wonder what would have happened if we didn't have camera phones at the G20 last year, would we still be lamenting the ineffectual nature of internal police investigations in twenty-forty? Would we have been as outraged at the death of Ian Tomlinson. Would we have even be told that he met his death at the hands of the riot police, or would we just be sad that a man died of a heart attack?

Originally Posted by Flyboy

I wonder what would have happened if we didn't have camera phones at the G20 last year, would we still be lamenting the ineffectual nature of internal police investigations in twenty-forty? Would we have been as outraged at the death of Ian Tomlinson. Would we have even be told that he met his death at the hands of the riot police, or would we just be sad that a man died of a heart attack?

it would have probably come out in the wash a number of years later and then no charges for anyone involved