Ban the burkha ?

[Big]

Let's ban fertilizers. Oooops, it has been done.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Temper,temper..and I'll survive.

I don't do antagonism

I just don't agree that we have to ban muslims from owning vans,cars,lorries,jackets,rucksacks because they can and have been used for detonating bombs.

Originally Posted by Big

Let's ban fertilizers. Oooops, it has been done.

And of course that works doesn't it..

How many people who use fertilizer,cars,vans,lorries,rucksacks,jackets and burkhas HAVE NOT blown anyone up in the UK?

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I don't do antagonism

I just don't agree that we have to ban muslims from owning vans,cars,lorries,jackets,rucksacks because they can and have been used for detonating bombs.

See this post..and we aren't discussing banning Muslims from owning any of those things either...Nice try at deflection.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Big

Let's ban fertilizers. Oooops, it has been done.

Digital timers, mobile phones and wire too.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Digital timers, mobile phones and wire too.

Now you are getting the idea of how daft this discussion is...

[Peter_]

This should be a thread about ban the Berk, let alone ban the Burkha.

As a security issue they should be banned in airports, back on topic here.

Originally Posted by Gary L

So any discussion on muslims will be on topic in a thread about banning burqas. mosques and religion included?

Gary, your holistic all-encompassing knowledge of the art of debate has convinced me - you really are a complete master debater......

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Now you are getting the idea of how daft this discussion is...

I'm amazed how it's drifted from the original topic as stated in post #1
my post was an example of what the burqa can conceal which went along with the original topic. only to be dismissed with talk about having to ban cars

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Gary, your holistic all-encompassing knowledge of the art of debate has convinced me - you really are a complete master debater......

And you're a complete truck

Originally Posted by Masque

This should be a thread about ban the Berk, let alone ban the Burkha.

As a security issue they should be banned in airports, back on topic here.

But so should fertilizer,cars,vans,lorries,jackets and rucksacks which have all ACTUALLY BEEN USED in the UK to deliver suicide bombs if you ban the burkha which has NOT BEEN used in the UK to deliver suicide bombs.

However if you are actually referring to the burkha being used to hide identity at security points then you have a case for a ban on anyone refusing to remove their burkha and identify themselves(to a woman) from entering the aeroplane,bank,country but not an overall total blanket ban on the wearing of the burkha.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

However if you are actually referring to the burkha being used to hide identity at security points then you have a case for a ban on anyone refusing to remove their burkha and identify themselves(to a woman) from entering the aeroplane,bank,country.

Why do people want people wearing a burka to hide their identity at 'security points' not allowed to wear them?

is it because they might have a 'bomb' concealed. or we just want to be able to see who they are?

we haven't had a burqa bomb concealing yet. so it can't be because of that.
I don't even know why we have the scanners for if we're not worried about the possibility of someone wearing a burqa concealing a bomb because it hasn't happened yet.

if they were going to bring a bomb. they'd leave it in the motorised vehicle they arrived in outside.
that one has happened before.

And in English?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

And in English?

There are no bombs in burqas.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

But so should fertilizer,cars,vans,lorries,jackets and rucksacks which have all ACTUALLY BEEN USED in the UK to deliver suicide bombs if you ban the burkha which has NOT BEEN used in the UK to deliver suicide bombs.

However if you are actually referring to the burkha being used to hide identity at security points then you have a case for a ban on anyone refusing to remove their burkha and identify themselves(to a woman) from entering the aeroplane,bank,country but not an overall total blanket ban on the wearing of the burkha.

The is no reason for a complete ban, only in areas where proof of identity is required.

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

But so should fertilizer,cars,vans,lorries,jackets and rucksacks which have all ACTUALLY BEEN USED in the UK to deliver suicide bombs if you ban the burkha which has NOT BEEN used in the UK to deliver suicide bombs.

And all the above are used by people.. Identify the person and you have taken more action in the process of security than any other action such as banning. Burkha's are designed so you can not see the face, I don't though see the need for a complete ban only the need for more sympathy by the wearers with the security of the UK in mind. If this means showing your face to a female official at all security checkpoints then so be it..

As far as it goes in the streets I don't think the Burkha is any worse than a big puffa jacket combined with a hoodie

Originally Posted by Gary L

There are no bombs in burqas.

Does not compute.does not compute

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

And all the above are used by people.. Identify the person and you have taken more action in the process of security than any other action such as banning. Burkha's are designed so you can not see the face, I don't though see the need for a complete ban only the need for more sympathy by the wearers with the security of the UK in mind. If this means showing your face to a female official at all security checkpoints then so be it..

As far as it goes in the streets I don't think the Burkha is any worse than a big puffa jacket combined with a hoodie

I agree..I was merely trying pointing out to Gary why foreverwar's point was a valid one to make in the thread and wasn't off topic.