The 2010 General Election Thread: Week 1

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

No even 11 plus.

Is that due to lack of "brains" or lack of inspiration from the education you were given?
Afterall, many intelligent people do not have qualifications.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

our Labour MP, who is crap and she is from Hounslow.

Hounslow? How could she, the evil witch!

[Jimmy-J]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Is that due to lack of "brains" or lack of inspiration from the education you were given?
Afterall, many intelligent people do not have qualifications.

I agree, and many qualified people don't seem to have much intelligence.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Product 13

I agree, and many qualified people don't seem to have much intelligence.

There's a difference between knowledge, intelligence and wisdom, having just one tends to leave you lacking.

Although you do need "brains" to get 12 O levels, 3 A levels (grade A) and a 1st degree (unless it's in sociology )

[TheNorm]

Seven Cambridgeshire parliamentary seats are “dead certs�

...
VOTERS in Cambridgeshire have been told the general election is over – before it has even started.

A shock report by the Electoral Reform Society claims the county is in the running as the Most Boring Election Venue – because the present voting system means the parties in control of all seven of the county’s seats are "dead certs" to get back in...

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home...dead-certs.htm

I'm not surprised that many people don't bother voting in a general election. Perhaps it is time to change the Victorian election system?

[Angua]

Originally Posted by TheNorm

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home...dead-certs.htm

I'm not surprised that many people don't bother voting in a general election. Perhaps it is time to change the Victorian election system?

Agree - The current system whilst giving everyone a specific representative also results in unbalanced party majority government without a majority of the electorate. Both Tory & Labour have been the beneficiaries of this system. Worst thing is they then claim to have a mandate to ride roughshod over the majority of the population who didn't vote for them.

[Xaccers]

Isn't FPTP the system in every area?
If so, and the ERS (who's purpose one supposes is to object to the FPTP system) are correct, then how do MP's ever get voted in/out?

A snippet from the BBC's Election 2010 Live Coverage page:

1133 Senior civil servants met this morning to discuss the Conservatives' plans to cut £6bn of spending through efficiency savings in the coming financial year, the BBC understands.

Looks like the civil service is expecting to be implementing the Tory manifesto on 7th May.

[Raistlin]

That's great, except those £6bn of savings in the next few years will lead to MASSIVE costs in years to come.

Costs where though? Cameron just pointed out in their morning press conference that he's not envisaging one-off savings, he believes in smaller, more efficient government. It's not a case of not spending 6 billion this year, and therefore having to spend 12 billion next year.

To all those who claim that the parties are all the same, there is now a genuine ideological gap opening up between Labour and Conservative. The Tory proposal is for smaller, leaner Government. Frankly, after experiencing Gordon Brown's stealth taxes for more than a decade and then watching him chuck my money at bloated, un-reformed public services, I am more than ready to watch the State shrink.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Chris

Costs where though? Cameron just pointed out in their morning press conference that he's not envisaging one-off savings, he believes in smaller, more efficient government. It's not a case of not spending 6 billion this year, and therefore having to spend 12 billion next year.

To all those who claim that the parties are all the same, there is now a genuine ideological gap opening up between Labour and Conservative. The Tory proposal is for smaller, leaner Government. Frankly, after experiencing Gordon Brown's stealth taxes for more than a decade and then watching him chuck my money at bloated, un-reformed public services, I am more than ready to watch the State shrink.

I refer to my post here. The government is the economy don't you know?

Quite. I was in the car when Gord was making this point on the news and I found myself seething at my radio. I found it quite a chilling window into his psyche, that he thinks money can only be in the economy when its being spent by Government. That is utterly wrong-headed.

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Isn't FPTP the system in every area?
If so, and the ERS (who's purpose one supposes is to object to the FPTP system) are correct, then how do MP's ever get voted in/out?

The only MP's who get voted out are those in marginal seats where the electors swap sides to last time. Or those who for whatever sleazy reason the electorate have got thoroughly fed up with (Martin Bell won for this reason). Oh and those who are not standing for re-election this time but if they are in a safe seat will be followed up by a fellow party member.

The rest will be re-elected.

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Angua

The only MP's who get voted out are those in marginal seats where the electors swap sides to last time. Or those who for whatever sleazy reason the electorate have got thoroughly fed up with (Martin Bell won for this reason). Oh and those who are not standing for re-election this time but if they are in a safe seat will be followed up by a fellow party member.

The rest will be re-elected.

I don't see why this is a problem?
If an MP hasn't got the support, he won't get elected.
If an MP isnt good enough to get the support needed to be elected, then they don't deserve to be elected.

[NO ONE]

Originally Posted by richard1960

I am one of those people! i have my own reasons for voting labour sure brown has made mistakes but cameron just looks like a snake oil salesman,i work within the NHS and have seen massive investment in new hospitals and treatments it could be argued some of the money has been wasted which i am sure it has any organisation employing around 1 million people is bound to have some waste ,but even allowing for that people ought to see some of the state of the art facilities in NHS hospitals certainly my expierience of NHS investment under the last tory administration was not great.

Also a lot of the problems brown has had to deal with are worldwide america had a republican administration (american tories) before the democrats were elected,and their banking system went to pot the same as ours did. In short the financial banking services disaster was pretty much western world wide,it was no respector of political parties. argreed i two Will be voting Labour (but i think D C will wine i hop i am wrogin)

This election is wide open however but to be fair if cameron pulls it off good luck to him,but i shall not be voting tory.

areed i will be Vot Labour but i think tory will win