Christian terrorists

i think you have to look at this from the religious nutters point of view .They usually believe that blowing up buildings ,buses ,whatever is in the best interest of their religion and nothing will change their mind shot of a brain transplant ,so in that respect yes they are christian ,muslim or whatever .However if living 100% by the scriptures of any religion is the only way to be a christian or muslim or whatever then not many people will be considered christian ,muslim or whatever

basically imo it all boils down to psychopathic nutjobs justifying their actions with religion,as in most religions there are a million different interpretations depending on which day of the week it is which could justify blowing up buildings or buses for any nutjob that wants to

DISCLAIMER.....not all religious people are nutjobs ..felt i had to mention that in view of the way this thread has developed

Originally Posted by Gary L

These 4 worshipped in the mosque before the event. so there's X?

And the Hutarees, who are the point of this thread, state on their site

As christians we all are a part of the Souls of the Body of Christ, the one true church of Christ. Not any specific man made building or any man controlled organization. This is the belief of the Hutaree soldier, as should the belief of all followers in Christ be

So there is X also (by your reasoning).

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

And the Hutarees, who are the point of this thread, state on their site So there is X also (by your reasoning).

No. it's just their belief.
what is your reasoning?

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by Gary L

No. it's just their belief.
what is your reasoning?

Their belief that they are christians, or their belief as christians?

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Their belief that they are christians, or their belief as christians?

trick question
it's the same

if you asume that it is their belief as christians then they must be christians
if you assume that they believe they are christians then it would naturally be their belief as christians

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by martyh

trick question
it's the same

if you asume that it is their belief as christians then they must be christians
if you assume that they believe they are christians then it would naturally be their belief as christians

That would suggest that all it takes to be a christian is to believe you are one.
I guess applying that to Judaism and Islam would save a lot of pain in childhood
Does all it take to be a Jew is the belief that you are one?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Their belief that they are christians

That one.

Originally Posted by Xaccers

That would suggest that all it takes to be a christian is to believe you are one.

yup that's exactly what it means unlike a lot of religions there is no definitive cremony or action required to be a christian ..just belief and faith
you can of course be christened but that's not compulsory in todays modern church
I guess applying that to Judaism and Islam would save a lot of pain in childhood
Does all it take to be a Jew is the belief that you are one?

those religions do have certain ceremonies to be performed before being acepted to that particular faith so i don't see your point

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by martyh

those religions do have certain ceremonies to be performed before being acepted to that particular faith so i don't see your point

Aren't there also certain ceremonies and tenets you have to adhere too before becoming a christian for example?
If so it is not enough to just believe you are of a religion, don't you have to act it as well?

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Aren't there also certain ceremonies and tenets you have to adhere too before becoming a christian for example?
If so it is not enough to just believe you are of a religion, don't you have to act it as well?

quite correct imo ..the trouble is the religious nutjobs out there believe 100%that they are acting in the best interest of their religion so as far as they are concerened they are acting within the tenets of their religion so ,as i said earlier,in that respect they are members of their faith

Originally Posted by Gary L

No. it's just their belief.
what is your reasoning?

Gary, you wouldn't recognise reasoning if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord singing 'Reasoning is here again'. .

With your consummate deployment of non-sequiters, tortuous use of language, equivocation, non-recognition of contradictory statements, fallacies of presumption and ambiguity - you should be a politician.

[Raistlin]

Enough..... Thread closed for a time out, will re-open at 23:45 CFT.

This is the second time I've intervened in this thread.

If you can't all play nicely I'll start dishing out infractions until either everybody's suspended or people start to get the message.

Stop taking shots at each other and debate the topic.

For the record, the next person I find making any sort of racial/religious slur is going to find out just what the biggest infraction that can be issued for that is.


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Thread re-opened...

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I've had a tidy and removed some of the previous posts. If your post has been removed then it was either unacceptable within the Terms of Use, or it quoted a post that has been removed for that reason.

[marky]

For the record, the next person I find making any sort of racial/religious slur is going to find out just what the biggest infraction that can be issued for that is.

Seeing that the thread title is Christian Terrorists then its pretty impossible to post without an infraction.
Are you sober ?

my silly view is a terrorist is just that, they use whatever religion as an excuse and a reason to satisfy there tiny minds, this guy is one.

[Raistlin]

Originally Posted by marky

Seeing that the thread title is Christian Terrorists then its pretty impossible to post without an infraction.
Are you sober ?

Yes thank you, quite sober. If you can't discuss such a topic without being racially abusive then I suggest you stear clear. Any more comments like that and you'll find out just how sober I am ...

[Kymmy]

If anyone else has any stupid comments regarding a moderators decision then it won't just be Rob issuing out the infractions. Marky's post deleted for being off-topic, any more won't be so lucky