Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. I

[joff81]

Originally Posted by Big Red

ESPN UK Coverage
Football
Prem League
Scotish Prem League
Europa League
Serie A
German League
Portuguese League
Russian and Dutch leagues
Other
UFC - A MUST SEE
NBA
NHL
NCAA
Top 14 Rugby
AFL

Also from this Summer - The FA Cup. Women’s Super League and England Under 21, Guinness Premiership

like a said well over half is football !!!!!

with the stuff mentined at the bottom its over 65% football

[Big Red]

Originally Posted by joff81

like a said well over half is football !!!!!

with the stuff mentined at the bottom its over 65% football

Open Access 3 have NASCAR rights in the UK - Sky only.

Thats shows you how much Nascar was watched.

There is not much motor sports that gets people jumping up and down to watch it.

Indy Car - I give you that one, I think its one if not the best motor sports on 4 wheels at the moment.
F1 would rather watch paint dry - its the new Nascar
Nascar - after time its gets boring and very late nights early mornings.
WTCC - I'm sure this was on Grandstand, then ITV1, moved to ITV4 does it sit on motorsports channel now?
Moto GP - agree its good.

So Indy Car and Moto GP are must have sports but all have long term deals with current broadcasters.

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Remeber ESPN have not being in the UK for a year yet and already they have a good size lineup.

You can say Golf(Rights bought up by Sky since Setanta crash), Motor Sports, Cricket (Mainly Sky and ITV4 viewing of the Prem League "that says it all") are all missing from there lineup.

They only have one UK channel with ESPN Americia manily for US sports and Classic

[joff81]

Originally Posted by Big Red

Open Access 3 have NASCAR rights in the UK - Sky only.

Thats shows you how much Nascar was watched.

There is not much motor sports that gets people jumping up and down to watch it.

Indy Car - I give you that one, I think its one if not the best motor sports on 4 wheels at the moment.
F1 would rather watch paint dry - its the new Nascar
Nascar - after time its gets boring and very late nights early mornings.
WTCC - I'm sure this was on Grandstand, then ITV1, moved to ITV4 does it sit on motorsports channel now?
Moto GP - agree its good.

So Indy Car and Moto GP are must have sports but all have long term deals with current broadcasters.

WTCC - Eurosport/Eurosport HD
SBK (superbikes) - Eurosport/Eurosport HD (better than Moto GP)
Moto GP - Eurosport/Eurosport HD
F1 - BBC
F3 series - Eurosport/Eurosport HD
GP2 series - Eurosport
indycar - Sky Sports
NASCAR (awesome IMO) open access (public broadcast)
A1 GP Sky Sports ???

all the above are awesome motorsport series and more like BTCC, World series by Renault, GT racing series, WRC, IRC etc that dont get aired and are pretty entertaining. they would be easy for ESPN to get deals and broadcast but they dont seem interested in nothing but football. look at the list you posted over half of it is dedicated to football and the rest is split between lost of minority sports (i do like NHL though).
its a shame that ESPN are not going for these as motorsport looks awesome in HD.

[colin25]

I would be pleased if they could get more english football

Goooooaaaaalllllllllllllllllll

Practising

[lemarsh]

Originally Posted by colin25

I would be pleased if they could get more english football

blue square premier stillup for grabs. wonder if anyone will pick up the play-off final at wembley.

[Big Red]

Originally Posted by joff81

WTCC - Eurosport/Eurosport HD
SBK (superbikes) - Eurosport/Eurosport HD (better than Moto GP)
Moto GP - Eurosport/Eurosport HD
F1 - BBC
F3 series - Eurosport/Eurosport HD
GP2 series - Eurosport
indycar - Sky Sports
NASCAR (awesome IMO) open access (public broadcast)
A1 GP Sky Sports ???

all the above are awesome motorsport series and more like BTCC, World series by Renault, GT racing series, WRC, IRC etc that dont get aired and are pretty entertaining. they would be easy for ESPN to get deals and broadcast but they dont seem interested in nothing but football. look at the list you posted over half of it is dedicated to football and the rest is split between lost of minority sports (i do like NHL though).
its a shame that ESPN are not going for these as motorsport looks awesome in HD.

But is there a market

A1 GP - was setup to rival F1 which Sky but alot of money into.
NASCAR - Just tells you if Sky dont extend deal then was the viewing at the time of the day worth it. - so why would ESPN pick up left overs.

F1 - Will never go to a pay tv station it will always remain on a free to air broadcaster - There is a rule about this - I will try and dig it out but it goes for other sports a % of them have to be shown on free to air channels.

Yes agree its footbal football football - but the rights to those football leagues are cheap and its what most people watch - Serie A football has alot of UK followers and the fact the rights to these were up due to the Setanta Crash.

You got to look at there point of view what are current ratings, NASCAR must of beimng either asking for too much money or the viewing were that bad that all have rejected hence why its on Open Access.

Remember ESPN started June last year so not even a year yet and not even started.

[Nook29]

Originally Posted by joff81

WTCC - Eurosport/Eurosport HD
SBK (superbikes) - Eurosport/Eurosport HD (better than Moto GP)
Moto GP - Eurosport/Eurosport HD
F1 - BBC
F3 series - Eurosport/Eurosport HD
GP2 series - Eurosport
indycar - Sky Sports
NASCAR (awesome IMO) open access (public broadcast)
A1 GP Sky Sports ???

all the above are awesome motorsport series and more like BTCC, World series by Renault, GT racing series, WRC, IRC etc that dont get aired and are pretty entertaining. they would be easy for ESPN to get deals and broadcast but they dont seem interested in nothing but football. look at the list you posted over half of it is dedicated to football and the rest is split between lost of minority sports (i do like NHL though).
its a shame that ESPN are not going for these as motorsport looks awesome in HD.

Everything you just listed is already shown on other channels. ESPN can't buy rights for a sporting event which has already been sold to another broadcaster. They can only get the rights when the current contract runs out.

A lot of people seem to think they can pay to show whatever they want. This isn't the case. If they could, ESPN would easily have snapped up everything you listed and more sports besides, but as it is, they have to wait.

[joff81]

Originally Posted by Nook29

Everything you just listed is already shown on other channels. ESPN can't buy rights for a sporting event which has already been sold to another broadcaster. They can only get the rights when the current contract runs out.

A lot of people seem to think they can pay to show whatever they want. This isn't the case. If they could, ESPN would easily have snapped up everything you listed and more sports besides, but as it is, they have to wait.

World series by Renault, GT series, WRC, IRC, Le Mans 24 hours (enduro series). all these are not getting live coverage. sure we get some highlights coverage but there is nothing live shown. NASCAR was up for grabs and ESPN let it slip away.

even DTM on ESPN was not shown live last year for most races because of football even though they have the contract to show both qualifying and race live. it just seems a missed oppertunity for someone like me who is not into football and prefers motorsports i mean even Sky Sports knows that Football is not the only sport out there and offers a greater choice of alternative sports to god damn football.

to be honest im suprised that ESPN have not snapped up feeder series like WSBR, Indy lights Formula BMW, Formula Palma Audi, ARCA etc as these are great series to watch and the licences will be for almost nothing.

[EDtheRED03]

Originally Posted by lemarsh

blue square premier stillup for grabs. wonder if anyone will pick up the play-off final at wembley.

I wish someone would - the Thursday night matches were in some cases good games of footie

Hope a deal is sorted for next season

[huxleypiguk]

A1GP is dead. Le Mans 24 hour will be on Eurosport again this year in June.

[musicbravo]

So how are we doing at this staying on topic idea?

New thread idea- My preference in televised sport and how that really affects the games SKY and ESPN will play next time rights come up for renewal

[virginruinedntl]

Originally Posted by MrWright

I am a big fan of Home and Away, so I really hope that Virgin gets Five HD even though it is highly unlikely. I would be gutted if we don't get it.

I don't think home and away or neighbours are made in HD anymore, i think it was too time consuming for them as it takes longer to edit and they have to make 4 eps a week on average.

[Big Red]

Originally Posted by joff81

World series by Renault, GT series, WRC, IRC, Le Mans 24 hours (enduro series). all these are not getting live coverage. sure we get some highlights coverage but there is nothing live shown. NASCAR was up for grabs and ESPN let it slip away.

even DTM on ESPN was not shown live last year for most races because of football even though they have the contract to show both qualifying and race live. it just seems a missed oppertunity for someone like me who is not into football and prefers motorsports i mean even Sky Sports knows that Football is not the only sport out there and offers a greater choice of alternative sports to god damn football.

But why would ESPN buy up rights and then use Live time up for something thats not bringing the audances in.

Every one of Sky's sports deals is multi million and in one case billions and on long term deals, most dont run out until 2014 and were extended last year.

World series by Renault, GT series, WRC, IRC, Le Mans 24 hours - the rating are that poor its only worth highlight rights.

DTM - whats the betting it gets dropped after the deal runs out - if the air time is better used by something that people will watch then they are going to do that.

In my eyes is just shows how poor NASCAR was for Sky to drop - Your saying ESPN missed the oppertunity to get it - why would ESPN buy something thats no getting the audances even on Sky.

ESPN are competing against Sky Sports and have just started, they bought into a inherted Prem League deal which see's them loose a package but ESPN are a huge global force and will sign multi million pound deals if it gets the audances.

It just shows with the likes of the indina cricket league not even ITV think its worth showing on prime time ITV1 instead its on ITV4.
NASCAR on Open Access3 - not open access 1/2 but 3.

ESPN and Sky are competing for Premium sports - Football is part of that if you like it or not.

Your comparing Sky's choice v ESPN - some facts Sky have being around in the UK since 1989 - ESPN -Aug 2009 7 months compared to 20+ years.

Sky have 5 UK sports channels compared to ESPN 1 or 3 if you want to include ESPN America and Classic.

Will ESPN choice get better and bigger - Yes
Will ESPN be able to equal its self to Sky - Yes but time will tell 2014 is a HUGE date in ESPN diary - most of the multi million/billion pound deals that Sky have will expire within this year.

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Originally Posted by musicbravo

So how are we doing at this staying on topic idea?

New thread idea- My preference in televised sport and how that really affects the games SKY and ESPN will play next time rights come up for renewal

oops sorry yeah agree back to Virgin

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by virginruinedntl

I don't think home and away or neighbours are made in HD anymore, i think it was too time consuming for them as it takes longer to edit and they have to make 4 eps a week on average.

HD shouldn't take any longer to edit than SD. The only different is the amount of detail you see but that's off topic for this thread as Five HD isn't (yet) coming to Virgin!

[joff81]

Originally Posted by Big Red

But why would ESPN buy up rights and then use Live time up for something thats not bringing the audances in.

Every one of Sky's sports deals is multi million and in one case billions and on long term deals, most dont run out until 2014 and were extended last year.

World series by Renault, GT series, WRC, IRC, Le Mans 24 hours - the rating are that poor its only worth highlight rights.

DTM - whats the betting it gets dropped after the deal runs out - if the air time is better used by something that people will watch then they are going to do that.

In my eyes is just shows how poor NASCAR was for Sky to drop - Your saying ESPN missed the oppertunity to get it - why would ESPN buy something thats no getting the audances even on Sky.

ESPN are competing against Sky Sports and have just started, they bought into a inherted Prem League deal which see's them loose a package but ESPN are a huge global force and will sign multi million pound deals if it gets the audances.

It just shows with the likes of the indina cricket league not even ITV think its worth showing on prime time ITV1 instead its on ITV4.
NASCAR on Open Access3 - not open access 1/2 but 3.

ESPN and Sky are competing for Premium sports - Football is part of that if you like it or not.

Your comparing Sky's choice v ESPN - some facts Sky have being around in the UK since 1989 - ESPN -Aug 2009 7 months compared to 20+ years.

Sky have 5 UK sports channels compared to ESPN 1 or 3 if you want to include ESPN America and Classic.

Will ESPN choice get better and bigger - Yes
Will ESPN be able to equal its self to Sky - Yes but time will tell 2014 is a HUGE date in ESPN diary - most of the multi million/billion pound deals that Sky have will expire within this year.

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oops sorry yeah agree back to Virgin

the thing is just cause your opinion is that most motorsports are not worth watching there is a big following of people that think it is. i hate football and think that all the air time it gets is a waste.

have you ever been to a race ???
i have and i know that crowds are bigger on avarage than what most football matches get (WRBR at sliverstone last year was over 150,000 to that one event alone).

the problem is that ESPN is hung up on football there is far too much of it aired and it ****es me off.

DTM is the biggest touring car series in europe and hope that it ESPN dont drop it but if they do Eurosport will pick it up and then again its ESPN`s loss and hopefully either way ill get to see it in HD.

yes i know the Le Mans 24 hours is on Eurosport but only the one race (or 2 if they get the Spa 24 hours as well) there is 9 races in total to the series and 8 of which will not be aired its another wasted oppertunity especially as Nigel Mansell is driving in the full series with his own team. what more do you need to pull an audience than probably the most well known of British drivers ever to race.

the problem is ESPN wont give motorsports a try as it seems they are too worried in loosing the die hard football fan.