David Cameron fires the starting gun for unofficial election campaigning - Page 2

papa smurf · 03-01-2010, 21:12

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Well lets put it this way, If that idiot Cameron gets in to run this country, be prepared for this country to be ripped apart, you will have more pen pushers in government and local government than workers.

The Tories look after the rich people, and not the people that work for the country on lousy wages,

great init

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

No matter what party gets in, we the voter will suffer, we will get these promises, and NOT one will be kept.

Under the tories, everything will go up, they will vote for an increase in pay, whilst we get stuck on so much percent. They will ruin this country like before.

I will vote Lib Dem, in protest against our Labour Mp, who has been fiddling, and is still there.

like the zero percent we are on now ?

Flyboy · 03-01-2010, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Chris

Number of managers in NHS has more than doubled since 1997

Ah. That'll be the tired old class war rhetoric we're expecting this election to be fought on.

Hmm...what was the Tories' stance on minimum wage?

**Chris** · 03-01-2010, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Hmm...what was the Tories' stance on minimum wage?

Hmmm ... what was Labour's stance on nationalisation?

Flyboy · 03-01-2010, 22:51

Aah...I see, answering a question with a question. How about actually just answering the question, or does that mean you don't actually have an answer?

Sirius · 03-01-2010, 22:51

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

They will ruin this country like before.
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Arthur look around you Brown has already gone and done it. If you cannot see it then get a eye test

**Chris** · 03-01-2010, 22:54

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Aah...I see, answering a question with a question. How about actually just answering the question, or does that mean you don't actually have an answer?

No, it means you don't like the answer, which isn't really my problem.

**Hugh** · 03-01-2010, 22:55

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Hmm...what was the Tories' stance on minimum wage?

Mmmmm - what was Labour's stance on University fees (and then University top-up fees)?

Or is it possible to have a rational, grown up conversation, with the understanding that parties policies evolve and change over time.....

Flyboy · 03-01-2010, 23:21

I'm kind of guessing that nobody is really keen on remembering what the answer to that question is.

Chris, when you actually answer the question, then you can tell me i don't like it, but seeing as you haven't, you can't really accuse me not liking it.

**Chris** · 03-01-2010, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

I'm kind of guessing that nobody is really keen on remembering what the answer to that question is.

Chris, when you actually answer the question, then you can tell me i don't like it, but seeing as you haven't, you can't really accuse me not liking it.

Of course I can. That's what debate is about.

There's very little point in anyone on here trying to goad anyone else into answering any specific question, when it's obvious that the question is designed to elicit an answer that would give the appearance of conceding a point. You know that, I know that, so let's stop playing games, shall we?

I mean, we can either sit here, dumbly answering each other's questions and pretending we don't know where each other is trying to go with it, or we can just cut to the substantive issue - which is that the policies put forward by a party - any party - more than a decade ago are no guarantor of what that Party might do when next in office.

A fact amply demonstrated by Labour's utter failure to re-nationalise ... well, anything at all, really, with the possible exception of Railtrack, and even there they don't dare speak its name. Even though there's obviously a significant rump of support for good old fashioned socialism in the party grassroots.

**Maggy** · 03-01-2010, 23:45

You are all assuming that Mr Cameron is telling the truth...but I'm assuming he is of the same get as Tony Blair and most of the lying, conniving, nest feathering bunch from all parties that have been in Parliament for the last 5 years minimum and some for the last 12 years..

None of them have changed their spotty shorts and I have decided for the first time since gaining the right to vote, to spoil my paper...

None of them is going to tow us out of River Tick any time soon.That will be achieved by us the voters and workers and tax payers getting shafted by all and sundry.

I'm wondering just how many holes I can put in my belt...

danielf · 03-01-2010, 23:45

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Originally Posted by Chris

Of course I can. That's what debate is about.

There's very little point in anyone on here trying to goad anyone else into answering any specific question, when it's obvious that the question is designed to elicit an answer that would give the appearance of conceding a point.

I was under the impression that's the raison d'Ãªtre for CF?

**Chris** · 03-01-2010, 23:47

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Originally Posted by danielf

I was under the impression that's the raison d'Ãªtre for CF?

No, the main reason is Muslim bashing. Closely followed by muesli-munching, hand-wringing, liberal do-gooder apologetics. Oh, and trying to get people's cable fixed.

**Maggy** · 03-01-2010, 23:48

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Originally Posted by danielf

I was under the impression that's the raison d'Ãªtre for CF?

No we are predominately a 'help' site and some of us take that into as many corners as possible including educating others about politics.

danielf · 04-01-2010, 00:10

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

No we are predominately a 'help' site and some of us take that into as many corners as possible including educating others about politics.

I prefer Chris's explanation, though I think it's a bit unfair to class the entire pitch fork brigade as muslim bashers. I think pitch forks need a separate mention, even if some of them have read a book at some point in their life.

**Maggy** · 04-01-2010, 00:14

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Originally Posted by danielf

I prefer Chris's explanation, though I think it's a bit unfair to class the entire pitch fork brigade as muslim bashers. I think pitch forks need a separate mention, even if some of them have read a book at some point in their life.

No I hold to the hope that we are still adults and that though some of us are more adult than others,the likelihood exists that some of us will catch up eventually..