Do you feel well served by your local police force?

Originally Posted by LondonRoad

Private security firms can't even keep hold of the prisoners that have been caught and sentenced. I don't fancy their chances of doing any catching.

What? not even if the **** has a five minute start on a Rotweiller ?

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Originally Posted by Chris

What a pile of nonsense! You don't have to be able to provide an alternative suggestion to be able to criticise your idea about private security firms, which has got to be one of the battiest policing reform ideas I've ever heard.

Point taken about opinion.
So tell me Chris, what is yours?
A police commander has even praised the idea of private security firms patrolling the streets, are you suggesting the police are wrong?

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

What? not even if the **** has a five minute start on a Rotweiller ?

The Rotweiller would be in charge of the Private Security individual. To Rotty, the guard would taste the same as the ****, but without the chasing bit.... and with a nice polyester uniform topping.

[soicky]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

And your suggestion to sort out the mess that this country presently has?
More cops doing spot checks on cars than are around local shops of a friday night when the local **** are out in force.
Do not critisise unless you can give a better suggestion.

I don't have the answer if i did i would be running for PM. Do you really think private security firms will sort the mess this country is in?

[Gary L]

We could build more prisons so we can go back to the good ole days of going to prison for breaking the law. or don't we have the money? can't we raise the money by sending out the police on a mad fining spree once a week, and all revenues raised can be put towards the building of them?

Originally Posted by soicky

I don't have the answer if i did i would be running for PM. Do you really think private security firms will sort the mess this country is in?

Do you think that relying on the police, a service we pay a hell of a lot of money for, is working?
I hope you can write better than the PM

[budwieser]

Originally Posted by Gary L

We could build more prisons so we can go back to the good ole days of going to prison for breaking the law. or don't we have the money? can't we raise the money by sending out the police on a mad fining spree once a week, and all revenues raised can be put towards the building of them?

How about the courts back the Police up by giving out sentences to the *******s that make them think twice? Lets get some real deterrents for the criminals in this country.
We need much harsher sentences for the perpertrators of violent, aggressive crimes such as carrying a weapon with intent to use it, robbery with threats or violence. If you carry a knife, you`re prepared to use it, lets make it a 15 year minimum stretch with 15 years being the minimum time you`ll spend inside.

Yes

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by budwieser

How about the courts back the Police up by giving out sentences to the *******s that make them think twice? Lets get some real deterrents for the criminals in this country.

Everything is just about fines. as long as the courts get you to pay something then they're satisfied. can't send people to prison there's no room.

a lot of serious charges don't get to court anymore. a fixed penalty is as far as it goes. and you can get a fixed penalty almost identical in price to the GBH one just for dropping litter in the street.

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Yes

You have to explain why. those are the rulez.

I answered the question asked by the OP.

Please show me the rules you are referring to.

btw, Derek requesting

Originally Posted by Derek S

Perhaps some of the people who have answered no would like to elaborate.

does not, imho, count as "rulez"

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

I answered the question asked by the OP.

Please show me the rules you are referring to.

btw, Derek requesting
does not, imho, count as "rulez"

All that energy could have been used to think something up.

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Point taken about opinion.
So tell me Chris, what is yours?
A police commander has even praised the idea of private security firms patrolling the streets, are you suggesting the police are wrong?

An individual Police commander is not 'The Police' - s/he's one individual officer, and yes, I think he or she is wrong.

I don't fancy law enforcement and community safety provided by the lowest bidder, thank you very much. They tried something similar in our hospitals and they became filthy places riven with nasties like MRSA.

Better policing comes, IMO, from coppers getting out of their cars and getting on the beat with orders to be visible and work on crime prevention rather than merely responding after the fact. If that requires more money for enhanced recruitment, I'd be prepared to pay a few quid extra. It works in my local area, where the National Park authority has paid for one extra bobby so there is always at least one on patrol inside the park. It has made a very noticeable difference to traffic and anti-social behaviour problems for us.

[Mick Fisher]

If this Country stopped masquerading as a World Power, stopped getting into wars we can't win, junked Nuclear Deterrents we are never gonna use, curtailed overseas aid we can't afford and all the damned rest of it. Perhaps there would be enough left in the kitty to afford the manpower and resources the Police need in order to do a proper job. Maybe open up all those disused Police Stations to re-establish a long gone presence. Maybe we could build some badly needed prisons. Maybe we could even afford to fill in a few pot holes.

Things have fallen apart in the UK while that skint pillock Brown lauds it up at G20 conferences.

[moaningmags]

I live in North Lanarkshire and yes, I feel well served by my local police force.
They are great at bringing my drunk children (16 and 14 - currently sentenced to a 2 month grounding) home.
They know most of the kids around my area by name, they have regular patrols on foot and by car and anytime I've had to call them they've arrived very quickly.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Gary L

All that energy could have been used to think something up.

And all that energy could have been used for something other than sniping from the sidelines.

Some people on the site obviously have an agenda, either pro or anti police. Some seem to think a bit of kneecaping is good old fashioned family fun and presumably would be happy for their estates to turn into the British equivalent of Kabul with armed gangs of mercenaries roaming about dealing out 'justice' to anyone looking a bit dodgy.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. How much time do you think is honestly spent by your local force 'doing' motorists for offences? *

50% of officers time?
10%?
1%?

And whatever your guess do you think they should continue or just ignore the traffic laws and concentrate on all the murderers and rapists that some people think roam the streets (all 757 of them in 2007 for England and Wales. Not really that bad for 50,000,000+ people)

BTW if you think things are bad why not look at the root causes. Labours obsession with figures which cause endless fiddling, their removal of common sense which causes numerous cases of people being arrested for bugger all as the Police can no longer tell someone to take a hike if they are reporting something outrageous or the rapid decline of society in general.

* Yes offences. Not picking on them, not making stuff up but enforcing laws that are there and well known to most drivers even if they choose to ignore them.

[soicky]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Do you think that relying on the police, a service we pay a hell of a lot of money for, is working?
I hope you can write better than the PM

For me, yes.

You didn't answer my question. Bad eye site?