[Update] BNP on Question Time this week

Look at how the Nazi's got into power into he first place? Germany was downtrodden after WWI it was skint because the Allies demanding reparations the common man was taken forgratted. Up come a party ( ok the Nazi's had a charismatic leader where the BNP certainly do not) but they said they were going to fight for the rights of the German people.

More accurately they suggested it was the Jewish people, amongst others, who were the cause of the depression. Suggesting that while the 'common man' was struggling to afford bread let alone luxuries the Jewish people were living it up and their expense.

Originally Posted by Damien

More accurately they suggested it was the Jewish people, amongst others, who were the cause of the depression. Suggesting that while the 'common man' was struggling to afford bread let alone luxuries the Jewish people were living it up and their expense.

The great depression was caused by reparation payments and the cost of rebuilding after the war no matter what Hitler blamed anyway I was only summarizing the end result was still the same. I do not want a sudo Nazi party in power any more than you do but I do want things to change in favour of none ethnic minority Britains

Originally Posted by zing

The great depression was caused by reparation payments and the cost of rebuilding after the war no matter what Hitler blamed anyway I was only summarizing the end result was still the same. I do not want a sudo Nazi party in power any more than you do but I do want things to change in favour of none ethnic minority Britains

I was summarizing the difference between the actual cause of the problem in hindsight and the scapegoat the public chooses. It was not the minorities which were the cause of the depression but their perceived successes from the depression meant they received a lot of hatred from the 'common man'.

Much like this country blames an awful lot of ethnic minority Britain/Muslims/Immigrants. All of which seems to have been rolled into one in the minds of some members of the public and a feeling which the BNP is successfully exploiting.

People need to examine how much of this 'favouritism' is perceived or misreported and how much is recorded fact.

If you look on Wiki you will find there is quite a list of Nazi policies prior to the Great Depression which started in the 30's the Nazis had already had some power through the 20's

Its there Damien it is not a figment of my imagination.

Why do you think immigrants work so hard to get here? why do you think they are in force on the coast in France and not actually trying to work illegally in France? its cuz we are doormat Britain and soft as crap. Which brings me to another thing I want changing and that the whole Europe thing. Why is it we try to follow the rules when France and Germany do not? anyway I spose thats a digression

Originally Posted by zing

If you look on Wiki you will find there is quite a list of Nazi policies prior to the Great Depression which started in the 30's the Nazis had already had some power through the 20's

Its there Damien it is not a figment of my imagination.

Why do you think immigrants work so hard to get here? why do you think they are in force on the coast in France and not actually trying to work illegally in France? its cuz we are doormat Britain and soft as crap. Which brings me to another thing I want changing and that the whole Europe thing. Why is it we try to follow the rules when France and Germany do not? anyway I spose thats a digression

Germany actually take quite a high number of Immigrants. It's also worth looking into the race and immigration problems France has. Some stats from Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Europe

Switzerland has the highest immigrant population of any European country with more than one and a half million residents, as 23% of its 7.5 million residents are foreign-born. Countries in which immigrants form between 10% and 20% of the population are: Latvia (19%), Estonia (15%), Austria (15%), Ukraine (15%), Croatia (15%), Cyprus (14.3%), Ireland (14%), Moldova (13%), Germany (12%), Sweden (12%), Belarus (12%), Italy (11,9%),Spain (11%), France (10%) and the Netherlands (10%).[1]

We have between 5 to 10%. Let's be generous and say 10%. We're still behind Germany and Italy, and many many others, when it comes to Immigration as a percentage of our population.

I suspect part of the reason people come here is a legacy of multi-culturalism as a result of the empire (it's not recent, and it's not an experiment despite the BNP's weird language regarding it) and the fact Britain, overall, is not a racist country.

[c1rcle]

It's British Nationalist Party, please get it right.

Originally Posted by c1rcle

It's British Nationalist Party, please get it right.

It's the British National Party, please get it right.

Originally Posted by Damien

Germany actually take quite a high number of Immigrants. It's also worth looking into the race and immigration problems France has. Some stats from Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Europe



We have between 5 to 10%. Let's be generous and say 10%. We're still behind Germany and Italy, and many many others, when it comes to Immigration as a percentage of our population.

I suspect part of the reason people come here is a legacy of multi-culturalism as a result of the empire (it's not recent, and it's not an experiment despite the BNP's weird language regarding it) and the fact Britain, overall, is not a racist country.

yeah course its nothing to do with benefits housing NHS and lax immigration laws. I do not think Britain is racist and my views are not racist they may possibly be seen as nationalistic but they are not filled of hatred

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by c1rcle

Actually yes you should believe everything you read on the BNP site as it's all true. Then when the General Election finally arrives you can vote BNP with me.

On the other hand, I could vote for a party that will geniunely help me rather than blame all those foreigners for problems, and would help (in some small way) to keep the jackbooted facists out of power.

I'll believe in the tooth fairy and father christmas before i believe a single word on the bnp website. Even when they are reporting something factual they have to put their exaggeration and spin on it making it completely worthless. We are not facing the same situation germany did in the 30's with the bnp there are far too many differences at the basic level to go into here and for that reason i am not massively concerned about history repeating itself.

Bnp are a threat but only if they are allowed to be and thats the problem as right now we have three political partys so damn scared of offedning anyone that they are pleasing no one. We are clearly a desired destination for illegal immigrants for a whole host of reasons and that does need to change.

[c1rcle]

You lot sound more like Fascists than anyone in the BNP.

Originally Posted by c1rcle

You lot sound more like Fascists than anyone in the BNP.

Why? The parts where we disagreed with them? Doesn't seem fascist to me.

Go on i'll bite how are we facists dying to hear this one.

[Gary L]

I've consulted the online dictionary

1: a person who is dictatorial or has extreme right-wing views.

2: A reactionary or dictatorial person.

Fascism:
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Fascism:
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

At best I have only achieved some of those.