[Update] BNP on Question Time this week

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

Did I just hear Griffin say "skin colour is irrelevant"?!

If I didn't know what you were talking about, then I'd say skin colour isn't supposed to matter.

[punky]

Originally Posted by Russ

Making one's mind up about a person's opinion on one statement certainly does make a mockery of a debate. Kettle/pot/black

Who said one statement?

You wouldn't charge your mind regardless what said. What was the point in watching it? Is there really nothing more productive you could have done?

There are people that really will be swayed by what Griffin does and doesn't say. They are the ones that will influence elections and the political make-up of this country.

don't get me wrong Russ i dislike the man also, but maybe the Griffin has spotted that a large proportion of the british public are turning against the mainstream parties and with a some change in their policies they will get more and more support

and don't forget 1million voters voted for them and that figure could be bigger if all their supporters could be bothered to vote

and what worries me is that the panel and audience were so one sided ,it was in no way a balanced and fair discusion

[Gary L]

The part I found of interest were where the guy asked about the success of the BNP down to the failings of the government on immigration. and the public venting their concerns by voting the BNP.

Originally Posted by punky

At least there wasn't protests from the audience and he was allowed to speak mostly. That went better that I thought.

I thought the same.

I was really worried that Nick Griffin would dodge questions or attempt to refrain the questions. He wasn't able to and really had a bad night. The fact that he was quoted on the show and asked to explain his quotes was good. Especially when he failed, expect on one quotation, to tell the audience which of them were outragious lies. He kept quiet on that. Did not deal with the Holocaust issue well, nor the question on ethnicity.

He got approval for the issue of how some Women are treated in Islam. Other than it he did a lot poorer than expected. It was refresging to see him out of his comfort zone and actualy having to answer questions and explain himself.

His weakest moments were actually when his own quotes and views were said back to him!

I don't agree that it was all against him. Jack Straw got a lot of immigrtion flack.

Obviously the BNP fans will defend him, agreeing with his views etc etc but there was nothing in this performance that would improve peoples views of he BNP.

[Julian]

Well Nick Griffin was made to look pretty silly, not quite as silly as Jack Straw, but silly nome the less.

Originally Posted by Gary L

If I didn't know what you were talking about, then I'd say skin colour isn't supposed to matter.

Then why didn't he want non-white people in the BNP? Saying race doesn't matter and wanting an all White Britian is kind of odd.

[downquark1]

I did like the fact he smiled at David Dimblebee and smiled in general. I hate the faux-seriousness that question time instils.

But I don't think my opinions will change of the lying toe-rag. Unless it turns out it has all be a deception and even the BNP material I've seen is a conspiracy to keep them out.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Damien

Then why didn't he want non-white people in the BNP? Saying race doesn't matter and wanting an all White Britian is kind of odd.

It was the context if you like, of what they were discussing that he said that skin colour doesn't matter.

Anyway. Off to bed with me. Relief that he could not squirm out of his own quotations. That people will still want to vote for someone who hangs around with the KKK and all the other repulsive stuff he failed to account for tonight is depressing but there you go.

[Niles Crane]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Are you English?

I'm British, but for this mock suggestion, sure. I was just thinking i could do bringerofnoise a massive favour.

If i impregnated his daughter in glorious expression of interracial lust and/or love then he'd not only have English grandchildren, but they'd be mixed-race (or many would consider "black"). So they can be English, but not white, because both is wrong. Everybody wins.

[Mr Angry]

I genuinely, and regrettably, consider this to have been a major win for Griffin & the BNP.

The other panellists were lack lustre, unconvincing (given most of their backgrounds) and clearly - for the greater part - engaging in what they thought was populist electioneering.

Cue the BNP vote increase.

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

In that case why do I find "Paddy" jokes funny ?

Go on, tell us - why?

[SB_07]

How could anyone take Nick Griffin seriously? (Apart from BNP supporters)

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by SB_07

How could anyone take Nick Griffin seriously? (Apart from BNP supporters)

The issue is that people are not taking him seriously enough.

[danielf]

I can't see this being much of a vote winner for Nick. He was under fire for much of the program, and didn't deal with it very well.

The one section where he could have impressed was about whether the BNP's recent success was a result of failures of recent governments, and it goes onto immigration. He makes a real hash of it, and ends up comparing white people to Aboriginals and going on about tours in the lake district. He could have talked about jobs for local people, but he allows himself to be drawn into the race debate, and moans about a tour being cancelled as only 'English err. white people' were going on them.

I loved Nick's lip twitching during the Straw's closing comments. You can tell he is fuming inside.