[Update] The Royal Mail strike thread - Page 25

TheDaddy · 22-10-2009, 15:00

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Originally Posted by Pierre

You know how many voted then??

Yes, 80 000+ in favour of striking

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If they care about their workers, and their jobs, then the fiscal health of the parent organisation is important

It's not the union that decides, they are working on behalf of their members, this is what they want

Osem · 22-10-2009, 15:02

Yes we got mail today - bills sadly!..

Just been chatting to a very relieved neighbour of mine who received his accounts and tax return back from his accountant yesterday in time for HMRC's end of the month deadline. They were sent Recorded Delivery yet the postman didn't attempt to get a signature but just pushed them through the door. I've heard complaints about similar dubious activity raised on the radio and TV several times in recent weeks but am still waiting for any RM staff (especially those who keep banging on about the quality of customer service they're trying to preserve) to explain why this sort of thing keeps happening when there's really no excuse for it.

**Chris** · 22-10-2009, 15:22

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

It's not the union that decides, they are working on behalf of their members, this is what they want

So I imagine the proposal to hold a strike ballot had nothing to do with the CWU leadership then. And they didn't recommend the members vote 'yes'. And having secured their 'yes' vote, they had nothing to do with deciding whether, and when, the strike actually occurred.

TheDaddy · 22-10-2009, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Chris

So I imagine the proposal to hold a strike ballot had nothing to do with the CWU leadership then. And they didn't recommend the members vote 'yes'. And having secured their 'yes' vote, they had nothing to do with deciding whether, and when, the strike actually occurred.

Considering the numbers that voted yes I'd have thought no recommendations were needed

**Chris** · 22-10-2009, 15:28

Butu as you said, the members are happy to let the union take care of things for them. If the union says a strike is required, surely that means the members are simply going to give the union what it wants, namely a 'yes' vote?

TheDaddy · 22-10-2009, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Chris

Butu as you said, the members are happy to let the union take care of things for them. If the union says a strike is required, surely that means the members are simply going to give the union what it wants, namely a 'yes' vote?

They aren't sheep, being happy to let them negotiate on your behalf is very different to with drawing your labour.

Osem · 22-10-2009, 15:34

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

AFAIK recorded delivery the postman can "self certify" that it was delivered and thus no signature is needed. RM do a more secure form of this called "Recorded signed for" that does require the recipients signature. Course it costs more

I think 'Recorded Signed For' is just the new name for what used to be known as Recorded Delivery. I can't see any mention of 'self certification' by the postman/woman but the link you posted states:

"We make sure we get a signature from whoever receives the item, but bear in mind that this may not be the person named on the address label. If there's nobody available to sign for the item and the item is not collected or redelivery rearranged within seven calendar days, we return your mail free, with a note saying why we can't deliver it. On the rare occasions that we don’t get a signature for any other reason, we'll refund your money."

Although RM clearly don't want to highlight the fact that the signature paid for isn't always obtained, the last sentence gives the game away. It appears in the cases I've recently cited that 'reason' was the postman simply couldn't be bothered to knock on the door and ask for one.

Mr Angry · 22-10-2009, 15:59

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Originally Posted by Osem

the last sentence gives the game away. It appears in the cases I've recently cited that 'reason' was the postman simply couldn't be bothered to knock on the door and ask for one.

It could also be the case that the postperson knows how inconvenienced a customer might be by having to go to their local collection / sorting office in the event that they weren't there to sign. Alternatively, what if the postperson saw that they were tax documents and having considered the deadline - together with the fact that there is industrial action going on, used his / her initiative to ensure that your neighbour was not further inconvenienced / fined?

Bottom line - if you arrive home and it's there do you throw a hissy fit at not having been asked for your autograph or do you recognise initiative when you see it?

Flyboy · 22-10-2009, 16:05

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

Buggery - no mail - guess I aint getting any

Maybe, no one actually sent you anything.

webcrawler2050 · 22-10-2009, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

Maybe, no one actually sent you anything.

Well theres none for all 4 flats and it comes in one door..

Flyboy · 22-10-2009, 16:11

Well, maybe none of your neighbours have had anything sent to them today either. Or, maybe you have a squirrel for a neighbour.

webcrawler2050 · 22-10-2009, 16:12

Maybe... who knows just seems a bit wierd that all 4 flats didnt get nothing either..

**Maggy** · 22-10-2009, 16:23

The posties have organised it that no posties are delivering mail today and they will be back in to work tomorrow.Tomorrow there will be no sorters though so there will be no mail to go out.any sorting tomorrow will done ad hoc by whomever rallies around-probably the RM bosses.

Any post delivered today was delivered ad hoc by whatever means the RM bosses could organise.

Flyboy · 22-10-2009, 16:26

My mail was delivered by my regular postman. I didn't get a chance to quiz him on why.

**Chris** · 22-10-2009, 16:27

We got one of the three regulars who does our round today.