[Update] BNP on Question Time this week

Reality is we have had too many immigrants come in too quickly without proper infrastructure to support them and in some areas services have gone to hell. Now if you had been a resident in those areas for 10-20 years seeing the decline in those services in your area who would you blame ??. I am not saying it is right but IT IS understandable and thats what has to be addressed either by the current lot in power or the next but what cannot continue to happen is to make out we are one happy little multicultural society and there "ain't no problem here guv".

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

It's a thing called the "electorate", something most democratic countries have. They do a thing called "voting" during a thing called "elections" where they pick a party

One that's there to be elected, then. just like I said.

No Gary, most BNP members - certainly at party level, present company excepted, are too "dim" to either care about or know what they are supporting. That is a statement of fact which will doubtless dawn upon you and many of your fellow travellers (no pun intended) come Thursday night.

Prepare for enlightenment.

I take it I'm an official BNP member then?

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Gary L

One that's there to be elected, then. just like I said.

Gary, you need to understand that there is a very distinct difference between the "methodology" and the "rationale" in this particular context. Such wisdom will come with age.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I take it I'm an official BNP member then?

I don't know Gary, I would have hoped that if you were you'd have known.

Mind you, if it turns out that you find out that you are then my earlier reference to their members being particularly "dim" will have proven itself true.

On that basis I'd wager you'd qualify for free membership.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

Gary, you need to understand that there is a very distinct difference between the "methodology" and the "rationale" in this particular context. Such wisdom will come with age.

I don't know Gary, I would have hoped that if you were you'd have known.

Mind you, if it turns out that you find out that you are then my earlier reference to their members being particularly "dim" will have proven itself true.

On that basis I'd wager you'd qualify for free membership.

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On a slightly more serious note, whilst browsing the ARmy Rumour SErvice website, I found this link asking Veterans to sign up for a petition on the lines of

We, the undersigned, call for the BNP to STOP using the honour of the Armed Services community and the memory of fallen heroes to promote the politics of extremism and racism

Go on - you know it makes sense.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Reality is we have had too many immigrants come in too quickly without proper infrastructure to support them and in some areas services have gone to hell. Now if you had been a resident in those areas for 10-20 years seeing the decline in those services in your area who would you blame ??. I am not saying it is right but IT IS understandable and thats what has to be addressed either by the current lot in power or the next but what cannot continue to happen is to make out we are one happy little multicultural society and there "ain't no problem here guv".

At least some one in this thread is talking sense

living in Newcastle upon tyne for the last 25 yrs i have witnessed a lot of changes mostly in the last 5yrs or so due to the large influx of migrants to the area .Probably the most obvious is the growth in open support for the BNP.I know many BNP supporters (i hasten to add i am not a member)who do NOT go around "paki bashing"or spitting at muslims or any other type of racist behavior ,they have simply lived in areas like Cruddas park or Benwell all their lives and cannot understand why a family from Poland or india or Afghanistan gets priority over them or their family in health or housing matters.In truth, i can't either.These people,and yes i openly admit to being one,look for a way of expressing their frustration at being ignored by our own government and at the moment ,for some ,the BNP is offering more than the tories ,libs or labour in matters that really worry them.
I am not a member of the BNP ,BUT i do support some of their beliefs,I believe all imigration should be stopped now to give the country time to build up a infrasructure capable of supporting more migrants
I do not support the idea that non indigenous people should be deported,i find that idea both stupid and unpractical for any number of reasons
I also find people who think that all BNP supporters are knuckle dragging thugs both ignorent and stupid .You don't have to be racist to support some of their ideas
I also know many pakistani people whose fathers and mothers emigrated here in the fifties and sixties and are just as worried about the immigration issue as we "white indigenous people are" because they can be just as racist as us white people

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

living in Newcastle upon tyne for the last 25 yrs i have witnessed a lot of changes mostly in the last 5yrs or so due to the large influx of migrants to the area .Probably the most obvious is the growth in open support for the BNP.I know many BNP supporters (i hasten to add i am not a member)who do NOT go around "paki bashing"or spitting at muslims or any other type of racist behavior ,they have simply lived in areas like Cruddas park or Benwell all their lives and cannot understand why a family from Poland or india or Afghanistan gets priority over them or their family in health or housing matters.In truth, i can't either.These people,and yes i openly admit to being one,look for a way of expressing their frustration at being ignored by our own government and at the moment ,for some ,the BNP is offering more than the tories ,libs or labour in matters that really worry them.

I've always wondered if there was a party that wasn't anything like the BNP one we have, but just a party that was for the people who felt that other people were getting priority over them, would they be classed as a racist party, and would it's supporters?

A party that we knew for certain were nothing like the BNP.

Wasn't that called the Labour Party?

The Labour Party was created in 1900: a new party for a new century. Its formation was the result of many years of hard effort by working people, trade unionists and socialists, united by the goal of changing the British Parliament to represent the interests of everybody. Ignored by the Tories and disillusioned with the Liberals, a coalition of different interests came together to push for change

Originally Posted by Gary L

I've always wondered if there was a party that wasn't anything like the BNP one we have, but just a party that was for the people who felt that other people were getting priority over them, would they be classed as a racist party, and would it's supporters?

A party that we knew for certain were nothing like the BNP.

that's the whole problem gary ,most mainstream parties simply will not address the imigration issues, so at the moment the only party i am aware of is the BNP,maybe if the tories or labour would address these issues then they would get a lot more support .
It's not racism to want to curb or stop immigration or put you're own country first or look after the tax payers of a country before migrants

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Wasn't that called the Labour Party?

those were the days Forever sadly no longer

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

the only party i am aware of is the BNP,
It's not racism to want to curb or stop immigration or put you're own country first or look after the tax payers of a country before migrants

Well, the BNP it'll have to be then!

[soicky]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Well, the BNP it'll have to be then!

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by martyh

that's the whole problem gary ,most mainstream parties simply will not address the imigration issues, so at the moment the only party i am aware of is the BNP,maybe if the tories or labour would address these issues then they would get a lot more support .
It's not racism to want to curb or stop immigration or put you're own country first or look after the tax payers of a country before migrants

What about UKIP?

They are anti-EU & anti-immigration, but do not have the racist policies of the BNP.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Well, the BNP it'll have to be then!

Nope.

Although "it's not racism to want to curb or stop immigration or put your own country first or look after the tax payers of a country before migrants", it *is* racist to restrict your party's membership to White Britons only, it *is* racist to want to "repatriate" certain British Citizens "back" to their "countries of ethnic origin" simply because they are not White, it *is* racist to want to "stem & reverse the tide of non-white immigration", and so on...

Originally Posted by Gary L

Well, the BNP it'll have to be then!

Well, if you are leaving one political party and joining the BNP, you will be raising the average IQ's of both organisations.

Originally Posted by Matt D

What about UKIP?

They are anti-EU & anti-immigration, but do not have the racist policies of the BNP.



Nope.

Although "it's not racism to want to curb or stop immigration or put your own country first or look after the tax payers of a country before migrants", it *is* racist to restrict your party's membership to White Britons only, it *is* racist to want to "repatriate" certain British Citizens "back" to their "countries of ethnic origin" simply because they are not White, it *is* racist to want to "stem & reverse the tide of non-white immigration", and so on...

Those are the reasons why i havn't joined the party but i am looking closely at UKIP in the run up to next years election ,just feel they need a bit more fire in their belly though seems like they are always overshadowed by the BNP ,probably more to do with the way the media love to report any and all comments by Griffin

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Matt D

Although "it's not racism to want to curb or stop immigration or put your own country first or look after the tax payers of a country before migrants"

That's the one I think a lot of people want.

it *is* racist to restrict your party's membership to White Britons only

That's the BNP.

it *is* racist to want to "repatriate" certain British Citizens "back" to their "countries of ethnic origin" simply because they are not White

That's the BNP policy (one which I don't agree with at all, cuz it means losing Ian Wright)

it *is* racist to want to "stem & reverse the tide of non-white immigration", and so on...

That's The BNP.

We don't need the BNP. we just need a party that doesn't make the British public feel second class citizens in their own country, without there having to be an issue made about why people want this, I think.

I don't feel like a second class citizen in my own country - why do you?