[Update] The Royal Mail strike thread - Page 22

21-10-2009, 16:14

Oh god not another "arthur was a saint and it is all down to that nasty thacher woman" thing please. Fact is union bosses in recent times have constantly felt they were bigger then the industrys that employed their members and felt they were more important then the members they are there to represent. That is what has damaged the trade union movement in this country because despite it's defenders there are a lot more people that can remember what the unions did for this country in the 70's and what they would do again if they got the chance and thats why the majority have little or no time for unions now they only have themself to blame.

If as so many RM employess are saying the management are the problem and the job is fast not worht doing then leave it and let some people that want to do the job with a modern attitude and a realistic one that so many RM employees seem to be lackingeright now. I know some of you don't get it but the cold fact is at a time when so many are losing their jobs and homes you are lucky to have a job more so a job that pays a lot better then some that a lot of people do these days.

**Maggy** · 21-10-2009, 16:38

It would be a shame to dismiss everything that trade unions do.Some things like provide help,legal help,info over job issues can be very important.

Also let's not forget that Trade Unions did do some very good work in our history to address and obtain equality and fair working practices for workers.

I'm cross about the strikes because I feel that everyone is going to have to tighten their belts for quite some time in the future and postal workers can't expect to be exempt from all life's experiences.But it has to be admitted that we would not have some of the freedoms in the workplace if the unions hadn't done their best for their workers..We have all benefited because of unions

webcrawler2050 · 21-10-2009, 16:42

I am pretty damm angry about this whole "we are on strike" tosh. They are public servants and they shouldn't be allowed to do things like this. The problem with Royal Mail, they are soft. They do the right thing, to i.e bring in 30k temps to cover the mess the "real" employees cause and they can't win. Simple fact is, Unions have far too much power and shouldnt be allowed full stop. They dont even care what stress they are causing and will potentiallly loose RM millions.

**Damien** · 21-10-2009, 16:43

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Oh god not another "arthur was a saint and it is all down to that nasty thacher woman" thing please..

I didn't say that. I said it is hard to say he was single-handedly responsible. Just like it was certainly not all her fault. Like this incident is not all the Postal Workers, Royal Mail, or the Governments fault. It's just events have conspired, certain decisions have been made, and we are at this point. Who gets the most of the blame will remain to be seen.

TheDaddy · 21-10-2009, 16:46

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

If as so many RM employess are saying the management are the problem and the job is fast not worht doing then leave it and let some people that want to do the job with a modern attitude and a realistic one that so many RM employees seem to be lackingeright now. I know some of you don't get it but the cold fact is at a time when so many are losing their jobs and homes you are lucky to have a job more so a job that pays a lot better then some that a lot of people do these days.

Absolutely, how dare they not just shut up and put up with things, they have to be realistic that no matter how much ground they give it'll never be enough and so what if their terms of employment have changed so they are being set impossible time-round ratios and end up working hours for nothing, some people don't know how lucky they are

webcrawler2050 · 21-10-2009, 16:49

At the end of the day, considering this "Recession" and god knows how many people sign on etc, they should be very very very very very lucky they even have a job and a decentish hourly rate. We have a massive distrobution centre in Dorcan, Swindon and they are to be fair a large percentage foreign.

Pog66 · 21-10-2009, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

If everyone is going down the Iron Bitch Road, she totally ruined this country,

Lucky we've had 12 years of a socialist labour government to reverse all the wrong done then ...

TheDaddy · 21-10-2009, 16:59

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

At the end of the day, considering this "Recession" and god knows how many people sign on etc, they should be very very very very very lucky they even have a job and a decentish hourly rate. We have a massive distrobution centre in Dorcan, Swindon and they are to be fair a large percentage foreign.

How decent is the hourly rate when you end up doing an entire shifts for free? Perhaps they are lucky to be in work during a recession so why not fight to keep that job rather than going on the dole?

webcrawler2050 · 21-10-2009, 17:01

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

How decent is the hourly rate when you end up doing an entire shifts for free? Perhaps they are lucky to be in work during a recession so why not fight to keep that job rather than going on the dole?

Well i know in Swindon, they are getting Â£9.00 / Â£10.00 an hour. Â£12.50 for a night shift.

21-10-2009, 18:08

Er i have no sympathy for them this time for all the reasons i have previously stated and the fact that my local service is a complete joke and that isn't down to the management it is down to the workers being more iterested in meeting up for coffee at starbucks then doing what they are paid too. While many of us wait for our mail to be delivered same group of ten postal workers sit in starbucks drinking coffee for over an hour and a half with their bags right next to their feet filled with peoples mail and it is a common joke in our town.

Most of the people i know that are lucky enough to still have a job right now have had to accept new employment contracts\conditions but they don't spit their dummy out and threaten to strike and neither do a lot more people in this country doing harder jobs in worse condidtion they just get on with it. If being a postal worker was one of the worst jobs in the country maybe then i would have some sympathy but it isn't.

Having just watched the news conference the cwu gave clearly everyone is to blame and they the least hell even david cameron has been dragged into this and what the hell he is supposed to do about anything right now i don't know. Also most of the postal workers i come into contact with certainly do not give me the impression of "caring for the business or the public". Like i said if RM workers are that unhappy leave the job and let others have them and if it is as bad as they state and so intolerable then we will know soon enough.

SB_07 · 21-10-2009, 18:13

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Postal Strike To Go Ahead Within Hours
A national postal strike is to begin within hours, crippling mail deliveries across the country.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Bus...And_Royal_Mail

SnoopZ · 21-10-2009, 18:57

My solution to the postal strike is to pay them by cheque and send it by post.

ZrByte · 21-10-2009, 19:22

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Er i have no sympathy for them this time for all the reasons i have previously stated and the fact that my local service is a complete joke and that isn't down to the management it is down to the workers being more iterested in meeting up for coffee at starbucks then doing what they are paid too. While many of us wait for our mail to be delivered same group of ten postal workers sit in starbucks drinking coffee for over an hour and a half with their bags right next to their feet filled with peoples mail and it is a common joke in our town.

Actually you have RM to thank for that one too. When the two daily deliveries ended so did the working practices at the time. It is now perfectly acceptable for your postie to go home and have a sleep, or some breakfast and he can take as long as he wants about it too, that is as long as the mail is delivered by 5pm (In order to qualify for being delivered by that working day). The mail should also be stored in an authorised safe place or kept in the posties possession the whole time.
For some reason a lot of the public can't seem to grasp this and so I still get told how late I am when I'm still on the road at 13:30 delivering and constantly get accusations like what you have said above thrown at me. Now I don't take any long breaks, I get out as early as I can and on the rare occasion I do finish a little bit early I count it as a bonus on my break, which I have to take at the end of my shift in order to avoid abuse from the public.

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ

My solution to the postal strike is to pay them by cheque and send it by post.

And as I have said before WE DON'T GET PAID WHEN WE STRIKE....

Flyboy · 21-10-2009, 20:38

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Originally Posted by webcrawler2050

Well i know in Swindon, they are getting Â£9.00 / Â£10.00 an hour. Â£12.50 for a night shift.

How much do you get an hour?

webcrawler2050 · 21-10-2009, 20:42

Me I work at medion - don't get hourly. I get a salary.