[Update] The Royal Mail strike thread

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

If you truly believe that then there is little hope for the postal service. When TNT decide that your mail is not profitable enough for them, who would you turn to then?

More like when it costs £3+ to post a letter who are you going to moan about it to?

Originally Posted by Flyboy

If you truly believe that then there is little hope for the postal service. When TNT decide that your mail is not profitable enough for them, who would you turn to then?

I don't know but it's not currently different to this Mail service is it?

Since the workers have decided that they will bring the service to a halt then they may be costing management but in turn they are costing the company. Waiting a week for stuff ordered online, missing driving test confirmation letters, having to pay an extra £10 in order to get a parcel delivered in the next two weeks.

This is a consequence of strike action. The service becomes unreliable. A consequence of that is less customers. Can hardly complain when we want alternatives.

[Hom3r]

Originally Posted by Chris

What, so my local TNT postie is going to wake up in Bangalore and then get to my local delivery office in time for his shift? I think not.

Yes the sorting office could be in europe, and set back here for posting, (like most of the freight I deal with.)

Originally Posted by Chris

Time to find another job perhaps? Sounds like you need a change!

I have to get another job I redundant as of 31st of December, and 91 british jobs are being done in europe.

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Originally Posted by Flyboy

I think it is more likely that the mail will be transported overnight, in bulk, to Eastern Europe and sorted there and returned the next day.

Yep in BAe-146s, and Boeing 737s

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http://www.tnt.com/portal/uk/

TNT Express - Freight (My side of buisness)

THN Post - A RM clone

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Originally Posted by Damien

Well. Still faster than Royal Mail. Bet they won't strike as much either.

Erm they strike over very trival things. (wrong type of coffee, water too hot, not hot enough, its raining) and I'm not joking.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Damien

I don't know but it's not currently different to this Mail service is it?

Since the workers have decided that they will bring the service to a halt then they may be costing management but in turn they are costing the company. Waiting a week for stuff ordered online, missing driving test confirmation letters, having to pay an extra £10 in order to get a parcel delivered in the next two weeks.

This is a consequence of strike action. The service becomes unreliable. A consequence of that is less customers. Can hardly complain when we want alternatives.

No, this is a consequence of the Royal Mail trying to extort every last penny out of you, whilst it pays its chief executive millions of pounds in salary and bonus.

Extort (Oxford English Dictionary)

obtain by force, threats, or other unfair means

You may, imho, be over-egging the pudding on this one.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

More like when it costs £3+ to post a letter who are you going to moan about it to?

Scan it. Email it. Job done.

OK this will not work for parcels agreed, but why the hell not? I get my bank statements, car insurance documents via email / online etc. For mundane crap like that, who actually needs the Royal Mail?

[Osem]

Got to agree! Being a Luddite, until now I'd always preferred to receive bills, statements, financial reports etc. on paper but now I'm switching to electronic mail wherever that's possible. I'm fed up with having stuff go astray for no other reason than the bloke who puts it throught the door can't be bothered to check that he's got the right address. It's hardly rocket science but I'm still waiting for someone from the union to explain why it happens so often and why nothing's ever done about it. I won't be holding my breath for an answer to that one however.....

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I have several gripes about this issue, firstly RM have shot themself in the foot, there service is very poor, years ago we had, first and second deliveries, you could tell the time by the postman, what has happened the RM has gone absolutlely potty by doing away with this good service, employing staff who know nothing about there 'walk' over the last month we have had about ten different postman on our street, most of our mail goes to other doors, this is due to lack of training poor work and some postman who cannot speak basic english, and now the RM wants to improve things, they have gone above the workers instead of talking and training them.

On the other point, if anyone else came into take the contract, almost certainly the price of deliveries would go up even higher than what it is now, for example some companies, would say some places such as the outer hebrides, would not get a look in as it would be a non profit area compared to places like Birmingham and London, all these companies are after is profit and NOT the consumer, l say leave it with the RM, but give them a slap on backside and tell them to pull there finger out and give there workers a decent wage and decent deals.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

I have several gripes about this issue, firstly RM have shot themself in the foot, there service is very poor, years ago we had, first and second deliveries, you could tell the time by the postman, what has happened the RM has gone absolutlely potty by doing away with this good service, employing staff who know nothing about there 'walk' over the last month we have had about ten different postman on our street, most of our mail goes to other doors, this is due to lack of training poor work and some postman who cannot speak basic english, and now the RM wants to improve things, they have gone above the workers instead of talking and training them.

On the other point, if anyone else came into take the contract, almost certainly the price of deliveries would go up even higher than what it is now, for example some companies, would say some places such as the outer hebrides, would not get a look in as it would be a non profit area compared to places like Birmingham and London, all these companies are after is profit and NOT the consumer, l say leave it with the RM, but give them a slap on backside and tell them to pull there finger out and give there workers a decent wage and decent deals.

What - Welsh, Scottish, Cockney?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

What - Welsh, Scottish, Cockney?

All of the above.
I noticed you left out Irish?

[Arthurgray50@blu]

No workers from overseas.

[Mr Angry]

Originally Posted by Gary L

All of the above.
I noticed you left out Irish?

He hates us Paddies.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry

He hates us Paddies.

Let's not jump to conclusions

Originally Posted by Pierre

When you run out of ideas, always resort to the old favourite.

Blame Maggie.

Maggie hasn't been around for 18years, I know some people find it hard to let go

I am all too aware Pierre that Maggie has not been around for 18 years or whatever, but she left a lasting legacy in this country, turned families against families, hardly anything for any Tory to be proud of I think to be honest.
You tell families who were ripped apart during her reign to let go.
But at the end of the day her and her cronies were looked after were they not?
Nothing changed there!
She was the one to start all this Agency working lark too.
Another feather to her cap was the Toxteth riots, to name just one.

[cuggle]

all i know is my post is getting here later than ever and have been waiting 10 days now for a letter posted to me first class.