[Update] BNP on Question Time this week - Page 4

nomadking · 09-09-2009, 15:38

I don't see why anyone would need to make up stories about murders of white people eg Link. IIRC they set out to kill the first white person they came across. There wasn't an argument which escalated, which is what seems to happen in white on non-white cases. There are other cases that I vaguely remember being mentioned on the news, but I cannot remember enough about the cases in order to find the details on the web.

Pierre · 09-09-2009, 15:54

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Originally Posted by Damien

The BNP consistently does stuff like this.

I don't doubt it, they will sensationalise stories such as this, whereas in most areas where there are no areas of racial tension people will rightly dismiss it.

However, in areas where there is tension it can be powerful tool for them. There are areas not to far from where I live that are "no go" areas after dark if you are white, and these areas there are groups of asian youths setting upon white youths - no different, of course, to areas all round the country where gangs of young white youth set about young asians.

But these areas do exist, reverse racist attacks are a reality, and whilst the main parties hither and dither the BNP will continue to prey on the white people of this areas.

Police are scared to increase their prescence for fear of being called racist and concentrating their efforts in a mainly asian community, this is were the problems start.

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Anyone who supports an All-White Britain is a racist.

not everyone would be voting for the BNP becuase of their all-white Britain policy.

**Damien** · 09-09-2009, 16:08

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Originally Posted by nomadking

I don't see why anyone would need to make up stories about murders of white people eg Link. IIRC they set out to kill the first white person they came across. There wasn't an argument which escalated, which is what seems to happen in white on non-white cases. There are other cases that I vaguely remember being mentioned on the news, but I cannot remember enough about the cases in order to find the details on the web.

Because incidents like this are relatively rare and the BNP need them to occur around the time of an election and in the areas they are targeting. Racist attacks occur to both sides, no reason for people to elect BNP because obviously the minorities are punished as well as the non-minorities.

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There wasn't an argument which escalated, which is what seems to happen in white on non-white cases.

I doubt this is any less or more common a motive than any other race. You do have white people that want to kill black people just because they are racist.

nomadking · 09-09-2009, 16:48

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Originally Posted by Damien

Because incidents like this are relatively rare and the BNP need them to occur around the time of an election and in the areas they are targeting. Racist attacks occur to both sides, no reason for people to elect BNP because obviously the minorities are punished as well as the non-minorities.

Rare or simply not widely reported or not even treated as racist?

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Originally Posted by Damien

I doubt this is any less or more common a motive than any other race. You do have white people that want to kill black people just because they are racist.

The high profile white on non-white murders have often been arguments that escalated.

There was a TV news report about the body of a non-white person being found and the report went on and on about there being a racist motive. It was then later declared that the motive probably wasn't racial and that the killer(s) probably came from his own racial group. So why the big emphasis at first on a racial motive?

Time and time again we hear/read reports of a 'racial' crime, which has been nothing more than an argument which involved some name calling. The argument normally has a valid basis which does not involve race, but because one of the participants is white and the other isn't, it gets treated as a racist offence.

09-09-2009, 18:32

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So why the big emphasis at first on a racial motive?

Because only us vile, hateful white folk can be racists....

If Africans run round, and murder 1 million Africians from a different tribe, its called tribalism....

If Pakistanis kill Indians then its asians v's asians....

QED - If a Caucasian kills anyone from any other ethnic group. Then obviously we are racist, nazi ****....

Russ · 09-09-2009, 19:17

To all those people who think the media (or whoever) is saying only white on black attacks are classed as racist - can any of you tell me why anyone wants that to be seen as the case?

**Damien** · 09-09-2009, 19:59

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Because only us vile, hateful white folk can be racists....

If Africans run round, and murder 1 million Africians from a different tribe, its called tribalism....

If Pakistanis kill Indians then its asians v's asians....

QED - If a Caucasian kills anyone from any other ethnic group. Then obviously we are racist, nazi ****....

Did anyone say that that no? I even stated above that racial crimes are both ways, and indeed the news reports it.

Derek · 27-09-2009, 21:47

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8277399.stm

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Mr Straw told the BBC he would join a panel which will include BNP leader Nick Griffin, the Tories and Lib Dems, in London on 22 October.

Could be interesting, assuming of course Nick Griffin gets a chance to shoot himself in the foot and isn't stopped from taking part or drowned out by protestors.

nomadking · 27-09-2009, 22:15

He could be asked about being friendly with, and hugging known terrorists. Jack Straw that is, he hugged Yasser Arafat.

georgepomone · 28-09-2009, 01:00

However you may feel about this and whatever your opinion the important thing is to get off your backside and vote. There are many who voice opinions that never vote. The next General Election could be won on a few votes as turn-outs are getting really low in some places. Could even be a hung Parliament.
Don't have moans about it if you don't vote.
George.

Gary L · 28-09-2009, 01:19

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Time and time again we hear/read reports of a 'racial' crime, which has been nothing more than an argument which involved some name calling. The argument normally has a valid basis which does not involve race, but because one of the participants is white and the other isn't, it gets treated as a racist offence.

It is the 21st century. you might not have an issue with their colour, but it sells newspapers and it gives the PC's something to feel good about

Jimmy-J · 28-09-2009, 01:26

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Originally Posted by georgepomone

However you may feel about this and whatever your opinion the important thing is to get off your backside and vote. There are many who voice opinions that never vote. The next General Election could be won on a few votes as turn-outs are getting really low in some places. Could even be a hung Parliament.
Don't have moans about it if you don't vote.
George.

I'll vote when there's a party out there decent enough to win my confidence. I can't see that happening any time soon though.

**Hugh** · 28-09-2009, 09:14

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Originally Posted by nomadking

He could be asked about being friendly with, and hugging known terrorists. Jack Straw that is, he hugged Yasser Arafat.

Yes, I wonder how many world leaders have greeted ex-terrorists, such as Yasser Arafat, Gerry Adams/Martin McGuinness, Ã‰amon de Valera, Nelson Mandela, Chairman Mao, Fidel Castro, Colonel Qadafi, et al.

TheDaddy · 28-09-2009, 12:09

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Can anyone else see how much of an amazing opportunity this is for the BNP to show how inept and pathetic they are?

It's a nice thought but I can't see them messing it up.

nomadking · 28-09-2009, 12:15

Doesn't look very dark in the picture. Link to story. Just who did he think that he was about to shake hands with? Idi Amin?