You are Prime Minister...

9) IF you are a member of the armed service, no matter how long you serve, you will allowed FREE travel, flights, entertainment, football, medical care, private or NHS fastrak, to repay our debt to your commitment to our freedom.

Lol, How would you arrange this. Free football, flights and entertainment?

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

5) This country must allow a benefit system that fits the persons needs, ie his last employment paid £16.000 per year, this is what the government will pay on a weekly basis. (other countries pay this, why can't we)

Other countries can do this because people in other countries are willing to pay for this through considerably higher National Insurance contributions.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

If l was PM for this country, l would implement with immediate effect;

1) BAN all immagrants from walking into this country, if you don't have a job or house/flat, you cannot come in.
So it's ok if they fly in or catch the train?

2) The NHS is for the public who have resided in this country before 2005, after this date, you will have to pay for the health care.
So if I have grandchildren born after 2005, they will have to pay for healthcare?

3) Council poperty will only be given to those that ARE on the housing lists, and NOT who have just come into the country.
Fair enough

4) Employment Centres MUST give the first choice to people who have just been made redundant, or those on jobseekers with families.
Bit harsh on single unemployed people

5) This country must allow a benefit system that fits the persons needs, ie his last employment paid £16.000 per year, this is what the government will pay on a weekly basis. (other countries pay this, why can't we)
Interesting - works for me, though....

6) IF you are an immagrant, and you break British law, you WILL be deported,
Any law?

7) IF you are in prison for a trivial offence, you will be allowed community service, to repay your debt to society.
Sounds fair

9) IF you are a member of the armed service, no matter how long you serve, you will allowed FREE travel, flights, entertainment, football, medical care, private or NHS fastrak, to repay our debt to your commitment to our freedom.
Does that include ex-services?

10) OAP's will be given anything they need to live out there days, no more poverty.
Anything?

11) NHS staff, ie GPs, Drs and Nurses will be given decent wages.
GPs earn 100k - sounds decent to me

Where will all this money come from to back this all up, STOP the stupid wages paid to our MPs who sit on there backsides doing nothing but push a pen, go on very long holidays, my wages for this position, would be £20.000 per year, that is enough to live on, wait for our vote, stop all the finance that this government give out to other countries, where this country's need is far greater,.
646 MPs at £61k salary, and an average of £75k expenses (including staff costs) total cost £87 million - which, while a lot of money, isn't going to fund your propositions. In fact, as there are 433,000 qualified nurses and midwives, and 122,000 Practice nurses and nursing assistants, the MPs money would give each of them an annual pay rise of £157 each, with nothing left over for your other suggestions

[Halcyon]

Just thought of another law to scrap:

Having to pay extra to eat in but not pay extra if you sit outside or take away.

We are doing shops a favour by eating in their premises. It shows to other people it is a popular shop.

So ban all taxes that ask you to pay extra to eat in.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

They would be allowed this by contacting the various organistations, the club, airline etc.
They companies etc would get the money back via the government, that simple.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

They would be allowed this by contacting the various organistations, the club, airline etc.
They companies etc would get the money back via the government, that simple.

I am going to a Arsenal game this weekend, £100 for two tickets pretty much. The Government is going to need a lot of money.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hi Foreverwar, thank you for your comments, your comment ie Service personnel WOULD inlcude ex service personnel, the service personnel of this great country dserve much better than they they recieve now, if you have served in the services and have retired, you get the same, if you required treatment in your old age, you would get whatever treatment you needed NHS or private, your choice.

Your 'grandchilden' this barrier of 2005, this would apply to immagrants only, and no matter what way you came to to this country sailed a boat, dingy, if you want to come into the UK, you would need a JOB and a HOUSE/FLAT, if NOT you don't come in.

This great country of ours is bulging at the seams, I would stop this. I would stop this country being used as a moneybank for oversea's visitors who only want the freebees.

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Damien, are you service personnel, and prove it with your service number, if you have one, you would get it, if you haven't - forget it.

Many think might think that this special gift, might be expensive, but it is not, many clubs up and down the country do certain schemes, l believe some clubs in Scotland allow the unemployed into grounds at a reduced rate.

I want to give back something from this country to our armed forces for there hard work for the freedom we have today, and not the disgraceful treatment they get at the moment.

hi Arthurgray ,i was in the royal engineers but didn't see active service do i qualify for your freebies?

if i was a company executive on 100k a year i lost my job does that mean my dole would be 100k p/a simply because it was the lifestyle i was used to?

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Damien

I thought this is how it worked. Top earners can reach 50% of their pay!

The wealthiest actually pay a smaller proportion of their income in tax if you include direct and indirect and the more money you have it seems most would rather pay an accountant than pay tax.

Hey, I like his ideas - I am ex-services, and an IT Director; I am going to be rolling in it if I get made unemployed when Arthur is PM.... Free holidays and entertainment, and loadsamoney for not working.

Vote for Arthur - you know it makes sense!

btw, Arthur, you said the "government" is going to pay for this -how? Binning all the MPs will give each nurse £157 per year pay rise - how are you going to pay for all the freebies, and my exorbitant, but very reasonable in your opinion, unemployment benefit?

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Hi Martgh, pure and simple to answer both your questions; I said ALL armed services would get the freebee.

and two, If you were a company exec. and you knew you were going to lose your job, you would be reading the Times and Telegraph on the Exec page for a positions long before you got laid off, and with the talent you would have, you wouldn't be on the dole,.

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Hi Foreverwar, In this great country of ours, we have MPs on thousands and they get expenses to, l would insist they do exactly the same as the normal working guy does, and earn a good living,. If we got rid of inmates of prisons on silly offences, that would save £2.500 per week per prisoner, got rid of all the luxuries they have, that would save us a lot of money also. I would also get rid of the CC.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Hi Martgh, pure and simple to answer both your questions; I said ALL armed services would get the freebee.

and two, If you were a company exec. and you knew you were going to lose your job, you would be reading the Times and Telegraph on the Exec page for a positions long before you got laid off, and with the talent you would have, you wouldn't be on the dole,.

---------- Post added at 18:37 ---------- Previous post was at 18:33 ----------

Hi Foreverwar, In this great country of ours, we have MPs on thousands and they get expenses to, l would insist they do exactly the same as the normal working guy does, and earn a good living,. If we got rid of inmates of prisons on silly offences, that would save £2.500 per week per prisoner, got rid of all the luxuries they have, that would save us a lot of money also. I would also get rid of the CC.

hi arthur,good fun this thread isn't it it's like playing political Sims

i don't think non-combatants like myself should get your freebies we didn't do anything to deserve it so it's a waste of money imo plus i don't go to football games can i go to the opera instead ?

the company i worked for(a bank) went bust because i was incompetent and gave all it's money away on loans that people couldn't afford to pay back ,i've hid all my bonus money in offshore accounts do i still get 100k dole money cos i can't get another job ,not realy trying to honest, 100k a year from the gov plus my offshore accounts will do nicely ta very much

aggree with you on the prisoner idea though

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Damien, are you service personnel, and prove it with your service number, if you have one, you would get it, if you haven't - forget it.

Many think might think that this special gift, might be expensive, but it is not, many clubs up and down the country do certain schemes, l believe some clubs in Scotland allow the unemployed into grounds at a reduced rate.

I want to give back something from this country to our armed forces for there hard work for the freedom we have today, and not the disgraceful treatment they get at the moment.

Never said I was in the service. I am far too much of a coward to be in the Army

I am all for better treatment but not that kind of excessive treatment. For a start the country can not afford it. Secondly its out of proportion to their efforts. It's not to degrade their service, which everyone should respect, but w hat about the countless other public servants?

Surely we need to include the Police, Firemen, Paramedics as well?

[Halcyon]

Maybe free entry to war related events, eg. events, museums, air shows, etc would be better.

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Tony.

I am VERY surprised how many people are advocating changing the voting system to Proportional Representation

This silly system was the ONLY reason the BNP got 2 MEP seats. Whilst I agree we need some sort of reform we also need to keep out the lunitic fringe from all sides.

Ah but the FPTP system is how we ended up with Labour Claming a mandate with only 30% of the vote.