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Old 15-07-2009, 17:48   #46
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Re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)

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But you don't get three penalty points on your driving licence if you're commiting the offence on your push bike.
Yes but you can use the same ticket book and its quite easy to put something in the wrong box on them.

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With this in mind, is it any wonder a large proportion of the public are dubious about the spurious benefits of CCTV, surely what's sauce for the goose...
Well apart from the fact the CCTV is time coded and used for evidential purposes and can't be edited.

I've absolutely no problem with being filmed while working, in fact a number of my colleagues have body mounted cameras that record what they do.

What I do have a problem with is footage taken from across the street which can all too easily be edited or put out of context and there is no comeback available when it gets uploaded onto Youtube by the token ned who can use a computer rather than just ramraiding them from the local comet.
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Yes but you can use the same ticket book and its quite easy to put something in the wrong box on them.
Someone should ask him if they had a problem finding his tax disc on his bike, and whether they asked who he was insured with.

I know the bike came back as no registered keeper
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Old 15-07-2009, 18:42   #48
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Re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)

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Yes but you can use the same ticket book and its quite easy to put something in the wrong box on them.

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Well apart from the fact the CCTV is time coded and used for evidential purposes and can't be edited.

I've absolutely no problem with being filmed while working, in fact a number of my colleagues have body mounted cameras that record what they do.

What I do have a problem with is footage taken from across the street which can all too easily be edited or put out of context and there is no comeback available when it gets uploaded onto Youtube by the token ned who can use a computer rather than just ramraiding them from the local comet.
hmm i may argue that just because its time coded makes it uneditable

i see no difference between some on witnessing it from across the street and them witnessing and filming it to aid their recollection its what your pocket note books for

the way to deal with this is to use the laws on evidence if its going to be used for a trail

papers and tv stations should not show or direct people to footage if they think its going to be used against some one whether it be the police or members of the public

and maybe if some officers ( with force backing ) sued for defamation where videos are posted claiming to show something they don't it may get better for every one

i know even though i know quite a few in the force if i was stopped and questions i would start recording ( albeit via sound only ) everything that was said for my own benefit ( and i wouldn't tell anyone i was doing so either )

by the same token though i am not happy with there being cameras every where the personal cams the police in some areas use i would be quite happy to be recording at the same time as i think it helps keep everyone on the same page
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Re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)

And another example from today's news:

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Woman 'held for filming officers'

A woman is seeking a judicial review after she was allegedly detained and handcuffed by police who tried to get her mobile phone after she filmed them.
Rest of the article at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8163428.stm

No reason (allegedly, of course) to hold her boyfriend, so how on earth could it be legal for them to try to confiscate her phone?
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http://www.sirimo.co.uk/2009/05/14/u...ers-rights-v2/

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