Ronnie biggs refused but now granted parole - Page 2

MovedGoalPosts · 01-07-2009, 19:27

For a change with our increasingly hand wringing aren't they hard done by give them a chance softly softly do gooding let them off lightly with barely a slap on the wrist system, someone is actually being made to serve a penalty.

Remember prison sentences are supposed to be a penalty and deterrent to others. It's not just about the likelihood of reoffending and safety of the public. Not that sentencing policy seems to be that concerned these days about any of that.

The only thing that is probably wrong about this decision not to permit parole, is not that parole wasn't granted, but that other cases are treated too leniently and should have a similar tougher stance.

Hom3r · 01-07-2009, 19:44

Why we're at it lets Ian Brandy out aswell

Arthurgray50@blu · 01-07-2009, 19:56

Homr, Ian Brady commited an act, that deserved the death penalty, All Roonie did was rob a train.

I just feel sorry for that poor kids mum, (sorry that would be a different thread, and l like starting good threads)

bonzoe · 01-07-2009, 20:04

I've no sympathy for that crook. I just wish that we had left him to rot in Brazil, he only surrendered because he wanted to scrounge off this country.

Don't forget, he did not just rob a train, he was part of a gang who viciously attacked a defenceless driver, he was never fit enough to return to work and his life was shortened as a result. He also had a family.

CHiLL · 01-07-2009, 20:07

Has he served the time that was lay down on him by the judge? If he hasn't there's no need to let him out.

jamiefrost · 01-07-2009, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Homr, Ian Brady commited an act, that deserved the death penalty, All Roonie did was rob a train.

I just feel sorry for that poor kids mum, (sorry that would be a different thread, and l like starting good threads)

No No No No NO, his gang robbed a train and someone DIED as a result. He was part of it and equally responsible for what happened.

If he had not escaped he would of served his time and been out to spend his last years with is family. He made his choices and has to live with them

JJ

01-07-2009, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Homr, Ian Brady commited an act, that deserved the death penalty, All Roonie did was rob a train.

I just feel sorry for that poor kids mum, (sorry that would be a different thread, and l like starting good threads)

so did biggs ,he was party to murder he didn't just rob a train .If we let him out now he would be just as big a drain on the tax payer as if he were in jail if you take NHS costs into concideration

And if living in Brazil for 30odd years is classed as doing time in Arthurs world then i want some

Gary L · 01-07-2009, 20:39

Prison 1963 (sentenced 30 years)
Escaped 1965
On the run 35 years
Prison 2001 (asking for release due to poor health) 28 years left to run
2009 (still in prison. served 10 years of 30 years)

frogstamper · 01-07-2009, 21:05

If a film hadn't been made glamorising the train robbery, and Biggs didn't have the likes of "good ol cockneys" like Barbara Windsor in his corner and it was seen as what it was, an armed robbery with murder I wonder if RB would have as many supporters?
Somehow I doubt it.

**Damien** · 01-07-2009, 21:45

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Prison 1963 (sentenced 30 years)
Escaped 1965
On the run 35 years
Prison 2001 (asking for release due to poor health) 28 years left to run
2009 (still in prison. served 10 years of 30 years)

Also have to add in the fact that he fleed abroad...

Tezcatlipoca · 01-07-2009, 21:49

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Originally Posted by jamiefrost

No No No No NO, his gang robbed a train and someone DIED as a result. He was part of it and equally responsible for what happened.

If he had not escaped he would of served his time and been out to spend his last years with is family. He made his choices and has to live with them

JJ

This ^^^^

He's been refused parole? Tough.

**Paul** · 01-07-2009, 21:52

Pity a few more arent refused parole, a few dead people would be alive if they had.

alferret · 01-07-2009, 21:54

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Originally Posted by jamiefrost

SNIP! No No No No NO, his gang robbed a train and someone DIED as a result. He was part of it and equally responsible for what happened.

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Originally Posted by bonzoe

SNIP!

Don't forget, he did not just rob a train, he was part of a gang who viciously attacked a defenceless driver, he was never fit enough to return to work and his life was shortened as a result. He also had a family.

There was and has been no direct link to the death of the driver and the assault that ensued during the robbery, Jack Mills died in 1970 at the age of 65 of leukemia.

jamiefrost · 01-07-2009, 21:59

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Originally Posted by alferret

There was and has been no direct link to the death of the driver and the assault that ensued during the robbery, Jack Mills died in 1970 at the age of 65 of leukemia.

Guess that's alright then, every should be freed after serving 1/3 of their sentence.

JJ

**Damien** · 01-07-2009, 22:20

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Originally Posted by alferret

There was and has been no direct link to the death of the driver and the assault that ensued during the robbery, Jack Mills died in 1970 at the age of 65 of leukemia.

He never went back to work, he never completely recovered from his injuries but it's ok because Mr Biggs was jollying it up in South America. When he comes up everyone thinks he should be let go because he is old?