Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)

[rodster]

Andrew crawford !!! Are you Neil Berkett in disguise, are you Neeeeeeil Beeeerkett in disguise !!!!! hee heee

only jokin but you do like to defend virgin media for some unknown reason

on a serious note it frustrates me that virgin dangle the carrot that is just out of reach....... Can you imagine any other massive company telling people were gonna, say ford for example release a new fiesta in quarter 1 then not doing oh were sorry it will be summer now, ooops maybe sometime this year ..... nope me either

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by rodster

Andrew crawford !!! Are you Neil Berkett in disguise, are you Neeeeeeil Beeeerkett in disguise !!!!! hee heee

only jokin but you do like to defend virgin media for some unknown reason

on a serious note it frustrates me that virgin dangle the carrot that is just out of reach....... Can you imagine any other massive company telling people were gonna, say ford for example release a new fiesta in quarter 1 then not doing oh were sorry it will be summer now, ooops maybe sometime this year ..... nope me either

Acutally they do a lot

I have said my reason before i hate seeing the truth bended to suit someone needs, i also critise virign as well, like ch4 hd, unlimited downlaods when it limited etc

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Die5el

Tbh only time i have seen native HD icon is on eurosport Hd. Then it looks awsome on a 47 inch lg i got but then again it is only broadcast in 1080i so only time you will get true hd is through blu ray and i cant see virgin or sky broadcasting true hd channels in the near future so are we getting conned by the tv companys about the hd channels?

What are you talking about true HD?? 720p, 1080i are HD its not just 1080p thats classed as HD. The official labelling is Full HD on newer 1080p TV Sets. Just means you are getting the largest resolution for HD. Not that anything else isn't really HD.

Originally Posted by sherer

I always thought Sky was only at 720p and all broadcast HD was 720 although the STBs can upscale that to 1080p.

Anyway we all seem to have gone OT here as none of this is coming soon. I did setup a seperate HD discussion thread ages ago so might be better to move that there or to a new thread

All Broadcast HD services are 1080i that applies to VM, Sky and Freesat.

Your TV or STB will scale that to 720p if thats what you set it to or your TV if that is the only resolution it can do.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Acutall true HD is 4320P

[call08]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

Acutall true HD is 4320P

welldone that coming to japan in 2025

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by call08

welldone that coming to japan in 2025

try 2080

You do realise the bandwidth need to broadcast a single one fo them channels? the amount needed sky would be in current system be lucky to be able to broadcast one from what i knwo of it it need 2-3 ffree transponders to transmit in virgin terms i say 2-3 transport streams ie basically 2-3 analogue streams

[call08]

ino its 3 terrabite for 20 minutes of filming in ultra hd the bbc are filming the olympics in 2012 in ultra hd there using lots of bandwith for the test

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by call08

ino its 3 terrabite for 20 minutes of filming in ultra hd the bbc are filming the olympics in 2012 in ultra hd there using lots of bandwith for the test

try 30TB for 20 minutes its a 25GBit/s video uncomrpessed.

if you mean compressed 2TB is quite possiable but stilll huge.

[call08]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

try 30TB for 20 minutes its a 25GBit/s video uncomrpessed.

if you mean compressed 2TB is quite possiable but stilll huge.

yer and there aprently going to have it streamed live on a big screen in london nhk and other companys are going to help them broadcast it live

[Andrewcrawford23]

I can not wait to see the demands for UHD after the 2012 olpymecios then, sky are providing us with 1UHD channel and virgin are still 100 years behind.......

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by homealone

I'm just waiting for the people who have fairly 'ordinary' HD TV sets - eg 32" LCD which may be best viewed at 720p, who already use a V+ box, commenting that the much vaunted 'HD' channels don't really offer much more than the upscaled SD the V+ has offered for ages.

Bigger displays, especially 'full HD', fair enough should be better, of course, especially at broadcast 1080i quality.

Just with my cynical hat on I can envisage the 'waited this long & its no better than we already had' type of comment from those with lesser equipment??

Personally, I can't see any difference between high quality SD and HD channels on sets smaller than 50". To get the real HD quality requires giant screens with a wider vision larger than one's eyes.

And with my cynical hat on, I can envisage those who've waited ages for HD being a little "peeved" when they realise that their current equipment will not receive the new HD channels when/if they arrive...

Pigs will fly first before VM transmit dozens of HD channels in the bandwidth hungry MPEG2 format.

[looper35uk]

Originally Posted by call08

welldone that coming to japan in 2025

And coming to Virgin Media on................. the day hell freezes over

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by looper35uk

And coming to Virgin Media on................. the day hell freezes over

try the forth of never, there no way virgin could carry a UHD channel on there current network even with upgrades to h.263 encodign and DVB-C2 it would sitll struggle because the UHD takes up about 2-3 analogue channel space. even sky would struggle on current techonolgoes virgin are more able to deliver than sky but they need to use the broadband to do it

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Well the argument is this, why did VM spend thousands of pounds getting us to take V+Boxes, which are HD supplier, if they won't do HD channels, or is this another rip off the customer trick again, as if so, VM have ripped off thousands of people.

[Andrewcrawford23]

they do, do hd channels, point is to carry the amoutn of hd channels people want ie all channels in hd we would need new box even sky cusotmer would as we all need new mpeg4 boxes