Pandemic (Swine) Flu

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

This is really getting stupid and so many people are starting to over react it is beyond a joke now. Bender with all due respect m8 this allocation of mass grave sites and preparation for a epidemic may be new to your partner but it is not new in terms of happening it has been going on for a very long time. Seriously this is done as a matter of routine and the fact it is happening does not in anyway shape or form point to the government knowing something we don't.

I used to work for an ex-civil servant whose favourite after-dinner story was a massive, multi-agency disaster recovery exercise he participated in, in the south of Scotland, late in 1988. A matter of months before Pan Am 103 blew up and turned a corner of Lockerbie into a crater. Doubtless there are people out there who take that as sufficient proof that the whole thing was set up as well.

I think there are simply some people in the world who have difficulty accepting that basic human nature can lead to people committing vile acts in the name of their cause, or that a natural biological process can cause death and mayhem without human intervention. They believe the only choices are either to believe in chaos (ironic, eh?), or to believe in order - order of the kind that is imposed by secret, powerful people who run the world from darkened, smoke-filled rooms.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Chris

or to believe in order - order of the kind that is imposed by secret, powerful people who run the world from darkened, smoke-filled rooms.

That's just dramatising it too much. the world is run by money.

Originally Posted by Gary L

That's just dramatising it too much. the world is run by money.

That's not dramatizing it too much at all. Some people really do think that. 'It's run by money' is a different opinion, and a lot nearer the truth IMO.

[chaos23]

Originally Posted by Chris

That's not dramatizing it too much at all. Some people really do think that. 'It's run by money' is a different opinion, and a lot nearer the truth IMO.

I would say its run FOR money, power and control.

Originally Posted by chaos23

I would say its run FOR money, power and control.

Again, to a great extent I would agree with that as a general observation. However some of the specific claims that are made on the basis of that are highly questionable. Such as the idea that someone is trying to engineer a flu pandemic as a means of population control.

[chaos23]

Originally Posted by Chris

Again, to a great extent I would agree with that as a general observation. However some of the specific claims that are made on the basis of that are highly questionable. Such as the idea that someone is trying to engineer a flu pandemic as a means of population control.

But Chris. Do you really think they are going to let overpopulation destroy the planet?

[STONEISLAND]

Originally Posted by chaos23

But Chris. Do you really think they are going to let overpopulation destroy the planet?

Send in the Men in Black

Originally Posted by chaos23

I would say its run FOR money, power and control.

I think the problem with these Internet-assembled philosophies and theories on how the world works is that they miss one crucial point. Events control politicians and not the other way around. These conspiracies always look at the aftermath of an event (i.e Iraq war) and then presume that the preceding events were engineered to create said event. If you do it like that then every event in history has pre-planned to create the current politician climate, and hence you end up with the New World Order rubbish.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Haven't noticed anyone dying of it outside of Mexico though. Obviously all those deaths are a tragedy but the virus seems to be failing quite badly at any sort of population control.

The first confirmed death from swine flu outside of Mexico has just been reported in Texas.

[chaos23]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think the problem with these Internet-assembled philosophies and theories on how the world works is that they miss one crucial point. Events control politicians and not the other way around. These conspiracies always look at the aftermath of an event (i.e Iraq war) and then presume that the preceding events were engineered to create said event. If you do it like that then every event in history has pre-planned to create the current politician climate, and hence you end up with the New World Order rubbish.

Thats just it, the politicians are not in control. Tey are puppets of the excessivley rich and powerful.

Originally Posted by chaos23

But Chris. Do you really think they are going to let overpopulation destroy the planet?

They (whoever They are), have little or no control over what will, or will not happen. We humans, will indeed allow overpopulation to (if not) destroy or severly damage our planets biosphere....

There is an ingrained, and arrogant belief that we humans are Special, and as such can do as we damn well please, with and to our little blue planet. Kind of unfortunate for all the other organisms that we have to eradicate in our drive for more, more, More! Strangely, everytime we cure a disease after years or decades of research, at the cost of tens or even hundreds of millions of pounds/dollars. A new and more deadly/debilating disease/virus/illness appears, at which we throw masses of time and money at to cure, just so more humans (in the developed world) can lead longer, but no happier and secure lives....

Two trueisms to part on....

Life is a terminal condition, and.... No-one gets out of life alive....

[Derek]

I'm just waiting for them to stick a tax on face masks and anti-viral drugs.

Originally Posted by chaos23

But Chris. Do you really think they are going to let overpopulation destroy the planet?

Do you seriously think it's in their power to 'let' or 'prevent' it?

[superbiatch]

Originally Posted by Derek S

I'm just waiting for them to stick a tax on face masks and anti-viral drugs.

Latest info about facemasks - one of the many emails received this morning from DH http://www.hpa.org.uk/web/HPAweb&HPA.../1240899135838

[chaos23]

Originally Posted by Chris

Do you seriously think it's in their power to 'let' or 'prevent' it?

Of course. Through science.