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Old 23-04-2009, 16:16   #16
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Re: Recommend me a router on a 20mb connection

your 360 will only play smoothly HD 1080 level4.1 content upto 10Mbit/s ,plus 2 channel sterio AAC inside an MP4 container (use AviDemux to convert any content you have thats got more AAC audio channels than that, use MediaInfo to check that) due to the weakeses of the MS codecs included in their current 360 firmware, and they wont update them apparently, so any 11n with the wanted usable USB2 ports will do, even the old 11g will do as the 360 wireless IS only the old generic 11g anyway....

although you could use a wireless11n AP in bridge mode and wire that directly into the 360 Ethernet port and still have wireless AP to wireless router, but again , thats more techy and "extreme" to set up....

but you gain nothing from that as the 360 doesnt allow direct access to its HD from the LAN, so a generic wired 360 connection is by far the better option to keep your multi device wireless 11n speeds up, just Keep all non 11n off the 11n wireless bit, and use a seperate directly wired 11g router in to a spare 11n router port for these old bits of kit....

id still get an 11n today as it will still have the slightly better internal CPU to cope with processing demands of faster 11n +security throughput, but check out the 3rd party firmware pages for some USB HD enabled 11g and 11n compatable kit.

your going to get far better USB support from these although the 11n 3rd party firmware support seems rather spotty right now.

somone here Must have a working 11n with working USB2 HD device drivers from one of the freeware firmwares on there by now.!

VM-CM<wired>WAN-port-11n-router-lan-port1<wired>11g-router-WAN-port

connect all old 11g to the 11g router wireless channel/mac and all 11n kit to the 11n router channel/mac, but keep them apart as far as you can and be sure to use non overlapping channels, 1 and 11 for instance, theres only 3 real non overlapping channels in home 11* kit remember.
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Old 25-04-2009, 18:16   #17
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Re: Recommend me a router on a 20mb connection

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I do like the idea of open source firmware but is it future proof being a G router? Any N routers?
Linksys have made an N-Router based on the linked one I think, but I can't remember where it was.
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Old 25-04-2009, 22:56   #18
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Re: Recommend me a router on a 20mb connection

I have a Linksys wrt160N speed can vary depending what else is on the wireless and how much interference.etc there is

However It's not actually doing any routing and is being a switch and wi-fi AP

The routing is being handled by a ALIX2D3 Geode lx800 with 256mb ram running pfSense which is also Load-balancing my Dual DSL lines.

This is from my desktop which is connected via a wireless N bridge to the WRT160N (which then connects to the Alix) there are 802.11G clients active on the network at the moment

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Old 26-04-2009, 16:45   #19
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Re: Recommend me a router on a 20mb connection

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I have a Linksys wrt160N speed can vary depending what else is on the wireless and how much interference.etc there is

However It's not actually doing any routing and is being a switch and wi-fi AP

The routing is being handled by a ALIX2D3 Geode lx800 with 256mb ram running pfSense which is also Load-balancing my Dual DSL lines.

This is from my desktop which is connected via a wireless N bridge to the WRT160N (which then connects to the Alix) there are 802.11G clients active on the network at the moment

load ballancing, looking at the upload rate, i wonder if its perhaps "bonding" both DSL or you are using non consumer lines at that rate

why didnt you just get a mini PCi wireless card for that ALIX2D3 Board with 3 LAN and 1 miniPCI ?
http://www.mini-box.com/Alix-2B-Boar...N-3-MINI-PCI_4

?

i also wonder how that CPU: 500 MHz AMD Geode LX800 maches up to the #14 CPU Atheros AR7161 MIPS 24K running @ 680MHz

with such a large price difference, i think id still go for the Mips RouterStation 3x LAN, 3x miniPCI, 32 MB RAM motherboards.

but then you do have the far larger generic ram and the x86 compatability although again iv not used any Geode to date so cant say how they run or what specs they/it have, SIMD ?, MMU ?, micro core engines etc... is it in essence a 486Dx....

remembering the higher CPU clocks dont matter as much...., as they are different CPU familys, overall data throughput processing does though OC.
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Old 26-04-2009, 18:43   #20
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Re: Recommend me a router on a 20mb connection

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load ballancing, looking at the upload rate, i wonder if its perhaps "bonding" both DSL or you are using non consumer lines at that rate

why didnt you just get a mini PCi wireless card for that ALIX2D3 Board with 3 LAN and 1 miniPCI ?
http://www.mini-box.com/Alix-2B-Boar...N-3-MINI-PCI_4

?

i also wonder how that CPU: 500 MHz AMD Geode LX800 maches up to the #14 CPU Atheros AR7161 MIPS 24K running @ 680MHz

with such a large price difference, i think id still go for the Mips RouterStation 3x LAN, 3x miniPCI, 32 MB RAM motherboards.

but then you do have the far larger generic ram and the x86 compatability although again iv not used any Geode to date so cant say how they run or what specs they/it have, SIMD ?, MMU ?, micro core engines etc... is it in essence a 486Dx....

remembering the higher CPU clocks dont matter as much...., as they are different CPU familys, overall data throughput processing does though OC.
They've been tested at 83Mbit/s or so on pfSense apperently if there is no encryption going on, can't vouch for the truth of that as I don't have enough bandwidth to hit that high.

I find my wireles being the bottleneck, it is load balancing I think the speedtest must be using multiple simutanious transfers, its 2 Adsl2+ lines using Annex M (I live near an exchange).

I get about 38down/4 up hardwired (and sometimes on wireless but wireless is a lot more variable) it's possible for me to get slightly more if I used a different modem on the 2nd line I lose 4Mbit/s of sync due to the AR7 chipset in my 2nd DSL modem.

Sync is 23.9/2.5 on one line 20/2.7 on the other

I'm not at home right this second and don't have it configured for console access from the Wan side but i'll get a dump of the cpu info if possible for you later if that helps?

Pfsense might not be the best thing for running a router on, I choose it becuase I was able to set it up to load balance without to much trouble
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Old 28-04-2009, 18:44   #21
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Re: Recommend me a router on a 20mb connection

Hmm didn't relise Freebsd lacks something like cat /proc/cpuinfo so it's not as easy to get the cpu info as id hoped.

not sure if this is any help whatsoever.

hw.machine: i386
hw.model: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS
hw.ncpu: 1
hw.byteorder: 1234
hw.physmem: 259497984
hw.usermem: 225472512
hw.pagesize: 4096
hw.floatingpoint: 1
hw.machine_arch: i386
hw.realmem: 268435456
hw.aac.iosize_max: 65536
hw.amr.force_sg32: 0


gateway:/tmp# dmesg | grep CPU
CPU: Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS (498.05-MHz 586-class CPU)
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Old 28-04-2009, 20:38   #22
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Re: Recommend me a router on a 20mb connection

its not such a bad CPU/SOC as it turns out http://www.amd.com/us-en/Connectivit...E13058,00.html

if it bugs you not having a detailed command for FreeBSD, in passing, i also found an old Freebsd version of CPUID , its not been updated for a long while and doesnt seem to have any Geode references but its a single C file and if you have a FreeBSD compiler handy you could run that up http://www.ka9q.net/code/cpuid/

http://www.paradicesoftware.com/specs/cpuid/index.htm has the Geode references, but again not updated in a long time ........
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Old 28-04-2009, 21:23   #23
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Re: Recommend me a router on a 20mb connection

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its not such a bad CPU/SOC as it turns out http://www.amd.com/us-en/Connectivit...E13058,00.html

if it bugs you not having a detailed command for FreeBSD, in passing, i also found an old Freebsd version of CPUID , its not been updated for a long while and doesnt seem to have any Geode references but its a single C file and if you have a FreeBSD compiler handy you could run that up http://www.ka9q.net/code/cpuid/

http://www.paradicesoftware.com/specs/cpuid/index.htm has the Geode references, but again not updated in a long time ........
it would probably be more hassle than it's worth as id have to remount the filesystem RW (Embedded pfSense runs read only apart from the config, supposidly to prolong the life of the CF card) I'd then have to find either another machine to compile on or install all the compilers.etc on the router
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