The existence of God - Page 92

Jimmy-J · 23-04-2009, 19:29

They can always be debaptised after they've grown up and realised there isn't a God.

idi banashapan · 23-04-2009, 19:33

I'd rather make her aware of religions and let her decide for herself when she is old enough and can make that decision. I don't agree with labelling or burdening a child with a religion when they have no choice in the matter.

Religion and religious views can be a very important thing to people and I don't think that it is my place to make that decision for someone else. That makes me no better than a preacher myself.

As I say, I shall not hide religion from her, nor belittle it in front of her. I have my views, but that does not mean they should be hers.

papa smurf · 23-04-2009, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Product 13

They can always be debaptised after they've grown up and realised there isn't a God.

what would be the point if you dont believe then baptism was just a wash in cold water in a very cold bathroom

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Originally Posted by Bender

I'd rather make her aware of religions and let her decide for herself when she is old enough and can make that decision. I don't agree with labelling or burdening a child with a religion when they have to choice in the matter.

Religion and religious views can be a very important thing to people and I don't think that it is my place to make that decision for someone else. That makes me no better than a preacher myself.

As I say, I shall not hide religion from her, nor belittle it in front of her. I have my views, but that does not mean they should be hers.

Gary L · 23-04-2009, 19:47

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Originally Posted by Product 13

They can always be debaptised after they've grown up and realised there isn't a God.

Or you could do it yourself

Jimmy-J · 23-04-2009, 19:53

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

what would be the point if you dont believe then baptism was just a wash in cold water in a very cold bathroom

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True, but as

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The certficate declares:
I ________ having been subjected to the Rite of Christian Baptism in infancy (before reaching an age of consent), hereby publicly revoke any implications of that Rite and renounce the Church that carried it out. In the name of human reason, I reject all its Creeds and all other such superstition in particular, the perfidious belief that any baby needs to be cleansed by Baptism of alleged ORIGINAL SIN, and the evil power of supposed demons. I wish to be excluded henceforth from enhanced claims of church membership numbers based on past baptismal statistics used, for example, for the purpose of securing legislative privilege.”

**Hugh** · 23-04-2009, 20:11

"Original Sin" is a Catholic concept (imho) - in C of E, the baptism is to welcome the child to the Family of Christ.

Russ · 23-04-2009, 20:15

Seems like a lot of effort for someone to go to - wouldn't it be just easier maybe.....just to not go to church again?

Jimmy-J · 23-04-2009, 20:17

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Seems like a lot of effort for someone to go to - wouldn't it be just easier maybe.....just to not go to church again?

Some people like closure?

Russ · 23-04-2009, 20:19

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Originally Posted by Product 13

Some people like closure?

Seems some people only need closure because they've chosen to carry it around with them.

Jimmy-J · 23-04-2009, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Seems some people only need closure because they've chosen to carry it around with them.

I agree, having someone else's faith etched into the brain since birth, is extremely difficult to get out of their system.

Russ · 23-04-2009, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Product 13

I agree, having someone else's faith etched into the brain since birth, is extremely difficult to get out of their system.

And buying a certificate will erase something 'etched' so deep? Pull the other one.

A person I know to this day caused untold trouble stress and sadness for my family when I was younger. Do I feel the need for some sort of emotional exorcism? Have I ever felt like downloading and printing a 'friend divorce'? No, I do what most people do and move on from it and pay no attention to them.

Jimmy-J · 23-04-2009, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Russ B

And buying a certificate will erase something 'etched' so deep? Pull the other one.

I can't knock it, if it helps it helps.

Russ · 23-04-2009, 20:44

I'm sure you can't if it's any way anti-religion.

Still, there's always money to be made from the gullible.

papa smurf · 23-04-2009, 20:53

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Originally Posted by Russ B

I'm sure you can't if it's any way anti-religion.

Still, there's always money to be made from the gullible.

i take it your not referring to the Church collection plate

Gary L · 23-04-2009, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Still, there's always money to be made from the gullible.

Somebody who is willing to pay for the certificate doesn't have to be gullible. you can say that it doesn't mean nothing. but that person is wanting it for a reason. you can have your opinion and he has his.