The existence of God - Page 71

Ignitionnet · 11-04-2009, 18:05

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Originally Posted by kingbuxton

It's not the physical body that moves to eternal life though (is it?) it is the Soul. The container becomes the Stardust, the essence, who knows.

Where does science suggest the existence of a soul though, and one that persists after biological death, that was my point. Misusing the persistence of matter and energy to in some way suggest internal life is imho inaccurate as it requires that leap of faith beyond that which is empirically observable to that we have some kind of soul, and that soul is our 'life'.

kingbuxton · 11-04-2009, 18:22

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Where does science suggest the existence of a soul though, and one that persists after biological death, that was my point.

It doesn't, hence I don't believe, just trying to be as objective as I can.

I get what you mean (I think) for Science to say that we don't physically ever cease to exist, that our "Building Blocks" move onto another stage, shouldn't be used as proof of an after life.

I just thought his answer was honest enough. I wasn't looking to pick holes in it.

Russ · 11-04-2009, 18:56

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Originally Posted by DRZ400

But you posted ......

Apart from it all being rubbish, this stood out.

I challenge you to find one glaring error in any of the sites I've linked to.

See? There you go yet again, twisting what we say to suit your own argument.

I linked to that site in order to answer the question of whether or not dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible. I could have used any site, that's the first one that came up on google. I could have linked directly to the Bible but I figured you'd have had difficulty in understanding it. It's getting frustrating trying to discuss this with you when your only intention is to mock and criticise.

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Misusing the persistence of matter and energy to in some way suggest internal life is imho inaccurate as it requires that leap of faith beyond that which is empirically observable to that we have some kind of soul, and that soul is our 'life'.

I wasn't misusing it, I offered it as a tenuous link between religion and science.

lucy7 · 11-04-2009, 18:58

Just watching BBC2 ... Private Life of an Easter Masterpiece.... lovely stuff.

By the way, going back to a post from ages ago, there were actually 13 Apostles in total.
When Judas died as an unfaithful one, another Apostle was chosen, not by Christ, but by the remaining 11 Apostles, lots were cast, and Mathias was chosen.
So 12, then 11, then 12 again, but to be totally correct there were 13.

Oh and Paul (Saul was appointed later as well)

dilli-theclaw · 11-04-2009, 19:01

Some of the posters / posts in here just go to show why I don't bother to ask any of my own questions. I could do without being asscociated with people like that. Peope who are only interested in mocking and trying to get a rise out of others.

kingbuxton · 11-04-2009, 19:29

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Some of the posters / posts in here just go to show why I don't bother to ask any of my own questions

You can always ignore them! You don't have to get involved in every part of the thread. If someone mocks a question you ask, ignore it. Move on. Plenty people will give (or will try to give) and honest opinion.

lucy7 · 11-04-2009, 19:32

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Originally Posted by kingbuxton

You can always ignore them! You don't have to get involved in every part of the thread. If someone mocks a question you ask, ignore it. Move on. Plenty people will give (or will try to give) and honest opinion.

Gosh, I so agree, just been saying that!

dilli-theclaw · 11-04-2009, 19:34

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Originally Posted by kingbuxton

You can always ignore them! You don't have to get involved in every part of the thread. If someone mocks a question you ask, ignore it. Move on. Plenty people will give (or will try to give) and honest opinion.

No, I can't.

No-one has mocked a question I've asked. But the poeple who do show their complete lack of respect for others.

kingbuxton · 11-04-2009, 19:38

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No, I can't.

Why not? It's not your personal quest to set everyone straight

dilli-theclaw · 11-04-2009, 19:39

You misunderstand. I can't ignore ANY post really. I have to read them all if I'm in a thread. I don't have any intention of 'setting anyone straight' As long as people stay within the rules they can say what they like. I've never said any different.

kingbuxton · 11-04-2009, 20:07

Do you mean "Cable Forum Team" that's why? I took what you said to mean you feel the need to reply to everything, and so you don't get involved. My word I am lost

DRZ400 · 11-04-2009, 20:38

This thread has been going on since the 18th of March and a few of you, especially Russ B will have put in a 100 plus hours answering questions / monitoring posts.

As it's a sensitive topic, all these hours won't have been happy ones, I've personally spent 4 days on it on and off.

No one will change their mind due to a post on the internet, we're just sitting on either sides of the fence 'mud slinging'. We've had our fun but I personally think it's time to agree to disagree, we're never going to see eye to eye on Religion, but spending hour after hour on the internet argueing about it is getting us nowhere, and never will.

Can we lock this thread and give everyone their lives back so we can all sit back an relax for a change and chat about modems.

lucy7 · 11-04-2009, 20:41

Yes, I agree on that!

Lock down?

Lets all do it all again children in a couple of months or so?!

Been nice and all that, but time for another controversal thread surely?

Russ · 11-04-2009, 20:44

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Originally Posted by DRZ400

No one will change their mind due to a post on the internet, we're just sitting on either sides of the fence 'mud slinging'.

No "we're" not, YOU are. I have answered each question you've put to me and in return you've twisted things, mocked, ridiculed, dodged questions and finally you decide to call a truce and request it gets closed.

The forum doesn't work that way. It gets closed for 1 of two reasons, either if the OP requests it or the team decides it gets out of hand and the only way to calm things down is to lock it.

Neither have happened at this time.

kingbuxton · 11-04-2009, 20:49

Most interesting God discussion I have been involved in......and.......

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Another Apostle was chosen, not by Christ, but by the remaining 11 Apostles, lots were cast, and Mathias was chosen

................educational.