The existence of God - Page 67

**Hugh** · 10-04-2009, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Religion - letting human beings deny their mortality since 4000 BC.

FWIW I'm happy to accept existing of a higher power, just not the Christian God nor indeed any man-made religion.

A God - yes, *the* God, well depending who you speak to who exactly is the God?

Find me a religion that doesn't claim we're in some way immortal and I'll be happy to look at it. That appears to be the one common factor between them, trying to offer us alternatives to our biological mortality.

Shinto or Confucianism?

10-04-2009, 22:00

I am immortal

**Hugh** · 10-04-2009, 22:03

There can only be one

kingbuxton · 10-04-2009, 22:04

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Find me a religion that doesn't claim we're in some way immortal and I'll be happy to look at it. That appears to be the one common factor between them, trying to offer us alternatives to our biological mortality

Never thought about it like that, you could wonder if a (mankinds) belief in a God is a comfort zone to some deep recess of the mind that just can't cope with the idea of death being final?

Did I say that, or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?

Russ · 10-04-2009, 22:09

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Originally Posted by kingbuxton

Never thought about it like that, you could wonder if a (mankinds) belief in a God is a comfort zone to some deep recess of the mind that just can't cope with the idea of death being final?

But that's on the assumption that we 'buy in' to a religion due to the promise of an afterlife - and that wasn't what sold it for me. To be honest I wouldn't have thought that was the reason for anyone at my church, although it's difficult to speak for people that aren't present.

kingbuxton · 10-04-2009, 22:13

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that wasn't what sold it for me

That's why I stuck mankind in brackets - as in to describe it as an overall experience? Not really the right word. I would assume that for a lot of people it is a very personal experience (I can't think of a better word).

Why did you? Or is it personal? If you would rather not say, doesn't matter.

Russ · 10-04-2009, 22:22

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Originally Posted by kingbuxton

That's why I stuck mankind in brackets - as in to describe it as an overall experience? Not really the right word. I would assume that for a lot of people it is a very personal experience (I can't think of a better word).

Why did you? Or is it personal? If you would rather not say, doesn't matter.

It just made more sense to me - as I understood it science has proven we don't actually 'die', forms of energy just move on to a different form. The world through these eyes seemed to be too specific than to happen by chance. I looked in to it a bit more, I took the 5% of relevant information from my Catholic schooling and found myself heading down the path of Christianity. No fear of Hell, no longing for eternity!

kingbuxton · 10-04-2009, 22:27

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science has proven we don't actually 'die', forms of energy just move on to a different form. The world through these eyes seemed to be too specific than to happen by chance

Good answer. We are all made of stardust.

danielf · 10-04-2009, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Russ B

But that's on the assumption that we 'buy in' to a religion due to the promise of an afterlife - and that wasn't what sold it for me. To be honest I wouldn't have thought that was the reason for anyone at my church, although it's difficult to speak for people that aren't present.

May I ask what does make you 'buy in' to a religion? I've probably got this all wrong, but it seems so strange to me that someone would 'decide' to follow a certain religion. Presumably, it's not like you are looking for something to believe in, and then pick a version that appeals to you? What other than upbringing makes on 'choose' a faith?

Russ · 10-04-2009, 22:31

Post #997?

kingbuxton · 10-04-2009, 22:33

You got 1000 - congrats - the longest ever discussion on religion that didn't get locked by a mod. Rumour has it if you can hit 2000 you find the meaning of life!

idi banashapan · 10-04-2009, 23:56

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Originally Posted by kingbuxton

You got 1000 - congrats - the longest ever discussion on religion that didn't get locked by a mod. Rumour has it if you can hit 2000 you find the meaning of life!

YAY!

btw - the meaning of life, the universe and everything is (apparently) 42.

Gary L · 11-04-2009, 09:34

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Originally Posted by Bender

YAY!

btw - the meaning of life, the universe and everything is (apparently) 42.

I read a theory once that we are all actually prisoners left to fend for ourselves. our prison keepers put us on this planet and just abandoned us.

**Hugh** · 11-04-2009, 10:03

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I read a theory once that we are all actually prisoners left to fend for ourselves. our prison keepers put us on this planet and just abandoned us.

The book SafeSpace is based on that premise, and that "theory" is also part of Scientology.

Gary L · 11-04-2009, 10:12

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

The book SafeSpace is based on that premise, and that "theory" is also part of Scientology.

Is the Bible part of the same theory? I mean does it tie in to it and have any relevance to us being prisoners?