The existence of God

[Russ]

That's such nonsense.

The original texts were in Hebrew and Ancient Greek. Painstaking efforts were made to translate them in to Latin and Greek.

Where the militant anti-religionists get the idea from that the bible has been 'rewritten' so many times from is beyond me.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I don't believe in God.
I may believe that there was a man named Jesus. this man was not magic.
I don't believe that the Big Bang created either the Earth or the Universe. I also don't believe that God created either

So within this thread you seem to have gone from not having an opinion on the Big Bang to now having one. let's hope your mind continues to open...

Gary if you can show me where you get the notion from that the Bible has 'varied' over the years, and not from your own opinion then I'll be very, very impressed.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Where the militant anti-religionists get the idea from that the bible has been 'rewritten' so many times from is beyond me.

Seeing as you are labellling some with such a word. is it only fair that they can come up with a label for you?

So within this thread you seem to have gone from not having an opinion on the Big Bang to now having one. let's hope your mind continues to open...

Me too Russ.

Gary if you can show me where you get the notion from that the Bible has 'varied' over the years, and not from your own opinion then I'll be very, very impressed.

Notion is an opinion or a belief. other than my own I probably can't.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Seeing as you are labellling some with such a word. is it only fair that they can come up with a label for you?

It is, and they/you do

I'm proud to be pro-Christianity.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Notion is an opinion or a belief. other than my own I probably can't.

Thought as much. There's plenty of references that state my view (ie the above translations were used), yet none that support your own.

I suppose you could always go for the angle that that although there's no evidence for your view, you still have faith in it? Think we've got the monopoly on that one though...

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ B

It is, and they/you do

I'm proud to be pro-Christianity.

That's your own label without the strong descriptive word at the front of it

Thought as much. There's plenty of references that state my view (ie the above translations were used), yet none that support your own.

I suppose you could always go for the angle that that although there's no evidence for your view, you still have faith in it? Think we've got the monopoly on that one though...

There's plenty of references probably that state my view too. do you accept that what I said about you could interpret the meaning of an extract in many different ways?

someone posted an extract earlier in the thread which I didn't understand from reading it what it actually meant. I asked for the meaning, but nobody told me

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

That's your own label without the strong descriptive word at the front of it

Well I don't consider myself militant because I'm not out to rubbish anyone's views.

Originally Posted by Gary L

There's plenty of references probably that state my view too.

OK well we're waiting....

Originally Posted by Gary L

do you accept that what I said about you could interpret the meaning of an extract in many different ways?

If you take a single line from any book then yes, you could take it out of context and it's a well-used habit by anti-religionists. But if you were to read the entire passage/chapter/book then you get to see it in context, something that CF's usual suspects try to avoid.

Originally Posted by Gary L

someone posted an extract earlier in the thread which I didn't understand from reading it what it actually meant. I asked for the meaning, but nobody told me

Google is your friend...

[papa smurf]

http://www.carm.org/christianity/bib...ust-it-anymore

[Russ]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

http://www.carm.org/christianity/bib...ust-it-anymore

Might be an idea to read links before you post them

From that page...

Is the Bible trustworthy? Absolutely! Remember, no archaeological discovery has ever contradicted the Bible. Therefore, since it has been verified over and over again throughout the centuries, we can continue to trust it as an accurate historical document.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Well I don't consider myself militant because I'm not out to rubbish anyone's views.

And I don't consider myself militant. it's just a label someone gave me

If you take a single line from any book then yes, you could take it out of context and it's a well-used habit by anti-religionists. But if you were to read the entire passage/chapter/book then you get to see it in context, something that CF's usual suspects try to avoid.

Accusations Russ someone genuinely doesn't understand what it means, and you say that it's either because you're anti religion, or you're not reading it fully.

Google is your friend...

Google translate?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Might be an idea to read links before you post them

From that page...

you seem to think i posted to rubbish you ,i posted for clarity.

"
If you open to almost any page in the Bible you will find a name of a place and/or a person. Much of this can be verified from archaeology. Though archaeology cannot prove that the Bible is the inspired word of God, "

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Gary L

And I don't consider myself militant. it's just a label someone gave me

Well if the cap fits etc.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Accusations Russ someone genuinely doesn't understand what it means, and you say that it's either because you're anti religion, or you're not reading it fully.

I wasn't calling you one of the Usual Suspects. You haven't reached the level of ignorance and offensiveness of those individuals (such as accusing me of child abuse and cruelty just because I bring my daughter up in Christianity, yep I've had that thrown at me on here in the past).

There's a difference between wanting to know what something means, and wanting to know in order to rubbish and belittle.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Google translate?

Not needed. I'm assuming you looked on www.allaboutgod.com which is what I've pointed you at in the past, what did you think of all the answers there? I mean you did read it, yes?

Originally Posted by Gary L

It's not about champions and it's not about sides.

Nobody believes you. they think you're making it all up

I beg to differ, there are others that belive him.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I don't believe in God.
I may believe that there was a man named Jesus. this man was not magic.
I don't believe that the Big Bang created either the Earth or the Universe. I also don't believe that God created either.

Has it taken the whole of this thread for you to come to these thoughts?

Originally Posted by Gary L

Instead of sniping and reading this thread with your blindfold covering your eyes when it suits. why don't you answer the question you asked of me earlier in the thread. the one I asked you back which you didn't want to answer?

I answered you, but you just kept replying with more questions to form a basis for an argument

Its my belief that man made God, God was the sun. 'God' has greater ties with astronomy than with a mystical being/deity.

Which makes me a atheist.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Not needed. I'm assuming you looked on www.allaboutgod.com which is what I've pointed you at in the past, what did you think of all the answers there?

The cap doesn't fit. I need the next size up

I have read that site over the last few days. I have many questions that are still not really answered even after reading a lot of it.

I mean you did read it, yes?

You're not listening to me are you Russ?

[Russ]

Or could it be the questions are answered but the answers weren't the ones you wanted?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Or could it be the questions are answered but the answers weren't the ones you wanted?

Could be. I think it's more to do with who said those are the right answers, and not just his answers.

It's not just 3 questions and 3 answers to it all with me.

Does God exist answers many questions to do with God. such as where is he, who made the Earth, was Jesus really his son..
if he doesn't exist then that answers all those others to do with God. then there's answers needed for those that haven't been answered.
if he does exist then that can answer the same questions to do with God.

[Russ]

So you're looking for the answers that are right "to you"?