STM Trial times changed

[frogstamper]

Don't forget folks with Virgin Media you get "Unlimited Downloads": forget the fact it will be at 25% of that superfast speed you pay for, apparently thats just being pedantic.

Have a look at the generous amount of bandwidth you can download at full speed on the new 2mb service!! its an eye-popping 100mb then your superfast bells and whistle VM-BB is cut back to 1mb...but only for 12 hours.

"TRULY UNLIMITED"

VM- "We don't like traffic jams"

Customer- "We don't like bullcrap"

http://www.virginmedia.com/help/traffic-management.php

Originally Posted by Martyn

this trafficmanagement lark is becoming to much, when will they upgrade the systems to beabel to cope with there over selling?

they won't, it will always be a shared/contended system but downloading outside of the 'peak' times should help those people who actually want to get reasonable amounts of files.

- if you really want to download you will learn to do it 'off-peak' - if you just want to complain, then please don't - it consumes bandwidth that could be used more usefully by us downloaders

[Martyn]

Originally Posted by homealone

they won't, it will always be a shared/contended system but downloading outside of the 'peak' times should help those people who actually want to get reasonable amounts of files.

- if you really want to download you will learn to do it 'off-peak' - if you just want to complain, then please don't - it consumes bandwidth that could be used more usefully by us downloaders

Still must be something we can do to get this cut down? even if they redeuced the 75% cap to 50? or 25? why did they start 75%?

Originally Posted by Martyn

Still must be something we can do to get this cut down? even if they redeuced the 75% cap to 50? or 25? why did they start 75%?

if you don't trigger it, then you don't have to worry about that - downloading outside the peak times is a 'no brainer' & 'we' don't actually have to do anything apart from that - try it

[Martyn]

i dont hit it any more.. but the fact is i shouldnt ahve to duck and dive around this...

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by homealone

if you don't trigger it, then you don't have to worry about that - downloading outside the peak times is a 'no brainer' & 'we' don't actually have to do anything apart from that - try it

But the question is how much longer will there be an off-peak time? since stm has come into being its gradually increased in time and duration, imo there will come a time in the not too distance future when there is 24 stm, simply because there is not enough room on the network because of VMs overselling.

Originally Posted by Martyn

i dont hit it any more.. but the fact is i shouldnt ahve to duck and dive around this...

if you don't 'hit it' then you don't have to 'duck & dive' ??

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

But the question is how much longer will there be an off-peak time? since stm has come into being its gradually increased in time and duration, imo there will come a time in the not too distance future when there is 24 stm, simply because there is not enough room on the network because of VMs overselling.

when/if it happens will be the time to worry - speculating doesn't have any relevance, at the moment - how much are you downloading, just now, while you have the opportunity? For example I have 'got' everything I need tonight - stm was never an issue because I didn't start until after 9pm.

The 'question' is what can you do now - not what may be in the future - should you stop breathing, now, because one day you are going to die, anyway ???

[Martyn]

i used to hit it. every day... as was on 10mb, quite easy to get 3gb as most games out now are easily in the 10gb.... but im on 20mb getting lower then 10mb speeds, just with the added bonus of 6gb caps to reach... tbh i didnt relise they where going to cracking down on those who actually use the internet... whats the point in having a 20mb speed with you can only use it fully for 13 hours, and within them 13 hours sleeping takes up roughtly 8 of them.. lol

[frogstamper]

Originally Posted by homealone

if you don't 'hit it' then you don't have to 'duck & dive' ??

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when/if it happens will be the time to worry - speculating doesn't have any relevance, at the moment - how much are you downloading, just now, while you have the opportunity? For example I have 'got' everything I need tonight - stm was never an issue because I didn't start until after 9pm.

The 'question' is what can you do now - not what may be in the future - should you stop breathing, now, because one day you are going to die, anyway ???

Its fear of being ripped off at present the current stm doesn't affect me, as you say its possible to work around it, but as I said the way its going 24 hour stm will come. If you look at the new stm times in the current trail for 2mb its active for 12 hours should you exceed 100mb, that really is dire should you choose to stay on 2mb, hardly unlimited.
Also if we as VM customers just sit back quietly accepting these draconian measures without a peep it'll come even quicker, but there is a slim chance that by complaining about the ever longer stm times on forums such as CF and the continuing trickle of e-mails on the subject to VM towers they "might" just listen.

[telfordcable]

I had blasted and have a go at virgin media of why new traffic management won't be affect on the XXL 50Meg and they say there is no need for any STM on 50Meg for the time being, as I think virgin media are cheat try to get more customers to sign up and join up 50Meg because of non-stm but costy at £50 a month. They try to get more peoples to come off 2Meg (worse now on stm) and they are hope that many customers will move to 50Meg then STM will hit hard once everyone left 2Meg/10Meg and 20Meg.

Thank alots VM.

[Uncle Peter]

Has anyone ever received an email from VM to inform them that the STM thresholds have been varied?

IMO this is a change to your T's and C's. If your bank changed the terms and conditions of your account then they would inform you in writing. In VM's case it seems that you have to find out for yourself that the goalposts have been moved.

I see this "top 5%" language is still being used. If someone triggered STM during peak hours on Monday (because he/she is at work during the day and wants to go to bed at a reasonable hour) then downloaded sod all for the rest of the week that hardly puts them in the "top 5%" category or implies that they are a heavy downloader.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Uncle Peter

Has anyone ever received an email from VM to inform them that the STM thresholds have been varied?

The only emails i receive are bull going on about how good they are. I have NEVER received any email informing me of a change to my service EVER.

[scu11y69]

"TRULY UNLIMITED"

VM- "We don't like traffic jams"

Customer- "We don't like bullcrap"

http://www.virginmedia.com/help/traffic-management.php[/QUOTE]

i agree the chart looks crap for every1 not on 50mb. quick every1 rush and sign up to 50mb so VM can again change the stm and hit the 50mb users this is there real plan its fairly obviouse

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

they say there is no need for any STM on 50Meg for the time being, as I think virgin media are cheat try to get more customers to sign up and join up 50Meg because of non-stm but costy at £50 a month. They try to get more peoples to come off 2Meg (worse now on stm) and they are hope that many customers will move to 50Meg then STM will hit hard once everyone left 2Meg/10Meg and 20Meg.

I think that is the intention. make everyone move to 50MB because we don't want to be STMd like crazy on all the other speeds. and when enough of us are on it with a possible 12/18 month contract to keep us on it, they then go and turn the STM on.

Berkett has said that once there is enough people on it there will be STM. so it does look that is the intention.

[100meg]

no doubt it will be buy there past record.
vermin speak with forked tongue.