This one's going down

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

according the local news about half hour ago the officer turned round after his onboard computer told him the car was suspect so he tried to catch up with it

Sad really. she died for the sake of a crime that usually ends up costing nothing more than a slapped wrist.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by martyh

i didn't say it was ok
what i will say is that it is an unfortunate result of actions taken by both parties

So her action of crossing the road is mitigating circumstances for a car to hit her at 90mph and kill her instantly., as I said above what would your reaction have been if it was your child and be totally 100% honest.

I would want him to lose everything if it was my child and I would not like to think what I would do if he got of virtually scott free with a reprimand and a minimum ban.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Sad really. she died for the sake of a crime that usually ends up costing nothing more than a slapped wrist.

it was a sad case alround nothing has changed though the kids still go in the dene untill the early hours,the parents still don't see anything wrong with it

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Originally Posted by Moldova

So her action of crossing the road is mitigating circumstances for a car to hit her at 90mph and kill her instantly., as I said above what would your reaction have been if it was your child and be totally 100% honest.

I would want him to lose everything if it was my child and I would not like to think what I would do if he got of virtually scott free with a reprimand and a minimum ban.

yes i would be bitter and twisted i would want want to rip his head of and i would probably never want accept any blame either .

next time someone is getting beat up or burgled or possibly your car stolen would you want the police tootling along at 30mph ..be honest now

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

next time someone is getting beat up or burgled or possibly your car stolen would you want the police tootling along at 30mph ..be honest now

What's your badge number officer? I can't see it from here

[frogstamper]

I know that in America there was major controversy a few years back over high speed police pursuits that resulted in a number of deaths, so much so that some states now have very stringent laws about when and when not an officer can initiate a pursuit in a built up area.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I'm a superior driver. only difference is I wasn't trained by a police man and I don't have a certificate.

I think that if you were to ask one hundred men between 20 and 40 how they rated themselves as a driver the majority would certainly put themselves above average, ie "better than most" and when I was that age I would've said the same.
In 1994 I got the chance to put my money where my mouth is my brother-in-law worked for a BMW franchise who'd organised a track day at Brands Hatch.
Basically the morning was spent hammering around the circuit as passengers of the instructors in an array of BMW's, when our turn came in the afternoon the instructor asked all of us how we rated our driving to which nearly all of us said, "well not the best, but certainly above average", then we got our chance...to a man we were all crap in comparison to these instructors.
Its easy putting your foot down and hitting a 140mph in a straight line, but correct braking going into a corner then exiting without losing any speed is a different matter, that day certainly made all of realise that without specialized training we were nowhere near as good as we'd like to think.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by frogstamper

I think that if you were to ask one hundred men between 20 and 40 how they rated themselves as a driver the majority would certainly put themselves above average, ie "better than most" and when I was that age I would've said the same.
In 1994 I got the chance to put my money where my mouth is my brother-in-law worked for a BMW franchise who'd organised a track day at Brands Hatch.
Basically the morning was spent hammering around the circuit as passengers of the instructors in an array of BMW's, when our turn came in the afternoon the instructor asked all of us how we rated our driving to which nearly all of us said, "well not the best, but certainly above average", then we got our chance...to a man we were all crap in comparison to these instructors.
Its easy putting your foot down and hitting a 140mph in a straight line, but correct braking going into a corner then exiting without losing any speed is a different matter, that day certainly made all of realise that without specialized training we were nowhere near as good as we'd like to think.

Amateurs!

[Dude111]

This is so sad......

Cops think they can do ANYTHING THEY WANT and its sick!!!!

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by martyh

yes i would be bitter and twisted i would want want to rip his head of and i would probably never want accept any blame either .

next time someone is getting beat up or burgled or possibly your car stolen would you want the police tootling along at 30mph ..be honest now

I would want him to have his Blues and twos on to at least give some forewarning that he is speeding and chasing an offender as without them he is just another reckless driver speeding without any reason who killed without any consideration or thought for his victim, which is pretty much the norm for the average offender behind the wheel, and he is just another offender.

I will be very interested to see how this case progresses and to see if he actually gets punished for his recklessness.

Originally Posted by Moldova

I will be very interested to see how this case progresses and to see if he actually gets punished for his recklessness.

Seems like an excellent idea!

Hardly worth shouting the odds until we have ALL the facts IMHO.

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Seems like an excellent idea!

Hardly worth shouting the odds until we have ALL the facts IMHO.

wouldnt this part of the forum be a nicer place then if everyone waited and did not post opinions just waited till the results are in then agree or disagree with them. There would be a lot less fights then and a hell of a lot less members with infractions and you poor mods would have so much less to do This part of this tech support forum afterall is the source of a good portion of the hassle on this site

My oh my, the stench of bovine excrement emanating from this thread is almost choking. All we have so far is the report from the first day of a trial. That means all we've heard is opening statements, followed by the evidence-in-chief for the prosecution case.

I also think the thread title is very unfortunate. It sounds to me like the OP thinks all coppers are guilty of something. I.E. "This one is going down (unlike all the others)." Pardon me if I'm reading it wrong, but I suspect I'm not the only one who thought that was the implication.

It could mean he has seen quite a few cases where a police officer has hit someone whilst driving fast most of whom do not get done for anything and correctly so in a lot of cases

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Chris

I also think the thread title is very unfortunate. It sounds to me like the OP thinks all coppers are guilty of something. I.E. "This one is going down (unlike all the others)." Pardon me if I'm reading it wrong,

You're excused. you are reading it wrong.

This one is not aimed at any individual group or profession, any misinterpretations are purely coincidental

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

wouldnt this part of the forum be a nicer place then if everyone waited and did not post opinions just waited till the results are in then agree or disagree with them. There would be a lot less fights then and a hell of a lot less members with infractions and you poor mods would have so much less to do This part of this tech support forum afterall is the source of a good portion of the hassle on this site

We should do that with politics. wait until we see who gets in and then discuss it afterwards

Oh and from a Mod point of view I'd suggest the thread title might be changed to something more suitable to suggest whats in the thread.

Originally Posted by Gary L

..snippety snip snip......

How about This copper's going down?

Originally Posted by Gary L

You're excused. you are reading it wrong.

This one is not aimed at any individual group or profession, any misinterpretaions are purely coincidental

[Gary L]

What would be an appropriate thread title? as some are clearly trying to make an issue out of the phrase "this one"

It was meant as "this driver that killed while speeding is going down" but others want it to read "this police man that killed while speeding is going down" when it doesn't have to be.

It's only an issue if you want to make it one.