Virgin Media to offer 150mb service in 2010

Originally Posted by Zhadnost

Of course this is all forgetting that if everyone had a better upload speed, then people using VPNs to work from home would have an easier time of it.

But wouldn't that be business usage, which (imho) would be better supported by a business package?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

But wouldn't that be business usage, which (imho) would be better supported by a business package?

We'll disagree there, I regard working from home from time to time as one of the things that comes with broadband access, not something requiring a business package. Working from home sometimes is, imho, fair residential usage. It's not the same as having a 5 days a week home office.

Isn't like it makes a huge difference anyways, from 768kbps to 1Mbit/s upstream on the highest business tier, yay.

[Agent47]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

been told that virgin media 100 to 150mb set up fee will be £120 and the monthly service charge for this will be £135 a month.

LOL what a ****ing rip off if true. After 10 mins of downloading you will probably be STMd to 35mb/65mbs.

Hopefully VM wont be in business come 2010.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Agent47

Hopefully VM wont be in business come 2010.

So say VM goes bust. That will then leave BT based broadband with a monopoly in the UK. How is that better?

[popper]

its very unlikely that the EU mega corps would let the only UK cable franchise go unpurchased for long without putting a bid in, hell C&W might even bid for it at the right price, or the real UK virgin/branson corp might even come calling if the price is right for the controlling interest.

[leexgx]

Originally Posted by Agent47

LOL what a ****ing rip off if true. After 10 mins of downloading you will probably be STMd to 35mb/65mbs.

Hopefully VM wont be in business come 2010.

@agent
BT will not be able to offer high speed BB for 3 yrs or More in the UK depending where you live (the BT offering fiber BB stuff) unless you live where they are doing it so i whould not want VM to go bust as i be stuck on 1mb BT crap speeds as thats all i can get with them

you do know that be around 20gb to kick in the STM if they did it as thats how long it takes to download that much on 150mb if you can manage to Max it for 15 mins (50mb would be around 6-8gb if they did but that be gay as just under 2 dvds or HD it be point less as they do advertise 15gb an hr somewhere)

each speed 10/20 STM norm take 15 mins at full speed to hit it (apart form 2>10 customers that be about 5 mins lol) still be intresting what STM if they do it it have to be high if they do

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the cable modems that are been provided now are 200mb capable, requires no change to the network to make it happen just config file on the modem

10/20 services are fine or was when i left it to goto 50mb this is in warrington

the 50mb service does needs fixing the speed drop (2-3mb) + high packet loss not acceptable, if it was speed loss i would not mind as long as it does not goto 2-10mb, its the packet loss that does it, as you cant use the Internet for 5-10 mins if i am downloading due to packet loss, i know the time is short but very annoying when it does it when your on the computer

[Ignitionnet]

People are reading far too much into this.

BT announced their first exchanges so VM got the PR machine running and the bandwidth wanger out. It means absolutely nothing until some kind of trials and tests of this product are done.

At the moment most DOCSIS 3 areas aren't even running with all 4 downstreams, it's a while away so no need to get excited just yet.

As always, VM keep a little ahead of BT, just a bit, usually only on the downstream, and publicise it hard so everyone knows.

[KingDaveRa]

Originally Posted by popper

hell C&W might even bid for it at the right price

God no. PLEASE no. That would be the WORST possible thing.

C&W couldn't organise a 'drunkening' in a brewery.

[Zhadnost]

Well, since they've got Thus now, it could make for some interesting network upgrades, especially for the folks in Scotland.

[Ignitionnet]

Well this might pee on Neil's bonfire a bit as far as exceeding BT on upstream goes:

http://www.lightreading.com/document...74374&site=cdn

Upstream update
For now, Motorola still has no specific plans to shoot for Silver or Full Docsis 3.0 qualification, which brings upstream channel bonding into the mix. That's partly because the vendor doesn't believe most MSOs will be ready for that for another 12 to 14 months. The only public exception so far is Japan CableNet Ltd, which is trying out upstream channel bonding using Arris Group Inc. (Nasdaq: ARRS)'s C4 CMTS. (See Japan Cablenet Swims Upstream .)

"We do not feel that is a business-impacting hurdle," Wagoner says of Motorola's present emphasis on downstream channel bonding. "But the upstream is becoming increasingly important. We'll be ready as the market needs that upstream capacity."

Perish the thought, without being able to bond crappy upstreams together to give the appearance of tons of capacity VM may actually have to clean the networks up properly nationwide and segment down the enormous DOCSIS 3 bonded groups.

Anyone who wants some work now might be a good time to learn cable, they could need quite a few contractors to help with this

[KingDaveRa]

That assumes they spend money on infrastructure though...

[broadbandking]

Originally Posted by KingDaveRa

That assumes they spend money on infrastructure though...

They don't know what that is

[popper]

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Well this might pee on Neil's bonfire a bit as far as exceeding BT on upstream goes:

http://www.lightreading.com/document...74374&site=cdn



Perish the thought, without being able to bond crappy upstreams together to give the appearance of tons of capacity VM may actually have to clean the networks up properly nationwide and segment down the enormous DOCSIS 3 bonded groups.

Anyone who wants some work now might be a good time to learn cable, they could need quite a few contractors to help with this

perhaps the 113 sales people and 35 support staff at the firm's call centre in Colwick, Nottingham can get on a VM porta cabin training program so they dont loose their VM discounts and jobs, or perhaps even the 2000+ already announced VM job cuts to take place over the next four years,

http://www.personneltoday.com/articl...-job-cuts.html

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OT but interesting,
hmm, if only VM could/would put that last bit of fibre in from the fibre enabled street cabs to the other cabs and on to your house ,this might be a useful addition as a starting point to some areas perhaps.

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...29&newsLang=en

"Alloptic Delivers Industry’s First DOCSIS Enabled PON


NCTA's The Cable Show 2009

LIVERMORE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Alloptic, a global leader in the development of RF over glass (RFoG) and passive optical networking (PON) solutions for CATV, telecom, and private network operators worldwide, today announced the availability of its DPC™ software, Alloptic’s DOCSIS PON Controller, which enables DOCSIS provisioning and control of its EPON system. DPC facilitates the acceleration of PON rollouts by MSOs and others using DOCSIS for service delivery.

With DPC, network operators realize the benefits of PON, while continuing to use DOCSIS flow-through provisioning and control. DPC acts as a proxy between back office systems and Alloptic GEPON system. In effect, the PON OLT appears to be a cable modem termination system (CMTS), and the PON ONU takes the place of the cable modem, resulting in PON performance from a DOCSIS-controlled network. ....."

[Ignitionnet]

Not likely popper would be too expensive and wouldn't sell to the money men.

They should be looking into a fibre deep architecture going to node + 1 amp only given its' huge efficiency gain and step towards full PON though this is unlikely especially given the DOCSIS 3 architecture aggregating nodes together.

[*sloman*]

Originally Posted by KingDaveRa

God no. PLEASE no. That would be the WORST possible thing.

C&W couldn't organise a 'drunkening' in a brewery.

I work for a large company and C&W serve us fine we have 1Gbit connection between each site.

I believe 1Gbit connection to the outside world.