Virgin Media to offer 150mb service in 2010

[Retrovertigo]

Originally Posted by EBD3000

Perhaps next year they should concentrate on network stability and the oversubscribed areas rather than offering another tier of speed that will benefit few.

<cynic hat on>
Of course stability isn't newsworthy
<cynic hat off>

Worth quoting and repeating this post. I am sick of reading about areas getting 50meg, proposed faster speeds in the future etc. When they cannot even supply a stable 20meg connection in my area. It has been confirmed as being over subscribed and with no date for upgrades. Yet they spout this stuff to the press. Depressing.

[Welshchris]

Originally Posted by EBD3000

Perhaps next year they should concentrate on network stability and the oversubscribed areas rather than offering another tier of speed that will benefit few.

<cynic hat on>
Of course stability isn't newsworthy
<cynic hat off>

i second that

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Neil Berkett himself doesn't know what the upload will be.

Neil Berkett probably doesn't even know if it's possible for longer than 1 minute in a 24hr period. but they'll probably work it out for him closer to the time.

[telfordcable]

I hope Neil let BT to run up to 200Mbps by using Virgin Media network as a open source to many isps. It would be good benefit to Virgin and Profit shares. I do hope Sky will join Virgin Media to share network.

[jamiefrost]

What have Ofcom got to do with when Virgin choose to roll of 100Mb+


As said before all they will do is stay ahead of the competition buy doing as little as possible

JJ

[Gary L]

What really annoys me is that Virgin don't like you running. they tell you off and punish you for it. then they start selling nitrous powered trainers.

Can I run in these?

DYFD!!

Everyone outside the building thinks we're wizzing around the place, but if only they could see through the blacked out windows Virgin installed.

[telfordcable]

Why is Virgin Media sort out 10 / 20 / 50 Mbps problem lately ??? They need to sort out this problem first before getting 150 Mbps.

Don't tell me you going to rush and sign up 150Mbps at £100 a month then throttling you down to 10Mbps all day and moaning about speed!

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by telfordcable

Why is Virgin Media sort out 10 / 20 / 50 Mbps problem lately ??? They need to sort out this problem first before getting 150 Mbps.

Don't tell me you going to rush and sign up 150Mbps at £100 a month then throttling you down to 10Mbps all day and moaning about speed!

It is starting to sound pathetic already isn't it.
it's starting to sound that that's it's sole purpose. to sell and buy it for the high figures, but it's not actually a reality which has been proven already.

One could even say that it's sort of being irresponsible.

[telfordcable]

I think Virgin Media is after the customer's money ! Once you signed up and soon after that they don't care about your speed problem or your area UBR problem as they kept telling you like this: is your pc got a virus to slow down your pc ? i cannot tell you when your area will be fixed UBR and so on ..... they just don't care !!!

They want money ! Not the network problem.

I am not surprise if 150Mbps will cost £125 a month !!! If that so, I will NEVER SIGN UP !!!

[popper]

right take a breath and relax
i do wish the average sheeple would once in a while scratch the surface in these news reports and headlines etc,the key being remembering the quotes we already know.

what do we know about Neil,
1: he has stated he wants to see 200Mbit/s down by 2012

given the real theoretical limit of docsis3 (with 125x125 is infact 5Gig down 3 Gig up), HOWEVER the current DS3 thats available and likely to stay that way for the medium term is 4x4 bonding channels thats your theoretical 200Mbps downsteam speeds.

so it appears he's now revised his stated 200Mbit down to 150Mbit/s download as you dont run your CPE (the VM 4x4 only DS3 cable modem modem sat on your desk)kit at anywere near 100%

2: Neil has stated his dislike of "network Nutrality" and a wish to

cash in on individual data flows to and from individual subscribers.

he's clearly been listening to the Allot sales teams , read and been hooked by their pitchs, for instance this

"
http://www.freepress.net/files/Deep_...We_Know_It.pdf

DPI equipment manufacturer, Allot, published a marketing brochure touting its ability to increase ARPU (Average Revenue Per User) through “Tiered Services” and “Quota Management.”

41Allot created a tool that “enables service providers to project potential revenues and profits from setting up a tiered service infrastructure.”

42 Even more blatantly, one of the “Service Provider Needs” listed by
the company is to “reduce the performance of applications with negative influence on revenues ..."

and from that bbc quotes
"

Mr Berkett said the firm had not ruled out the possibility of opening its own network to other ISPs.

He said: "We had this conversation with a bunch of investors recently. Our position is 'Let's prove the market'.
"Wholesaling is not off our agenda but right now it is not a priority for us."

He added: "Who knows, by the time BT have rolled out their next generation network we may be in position to explore wholesale."

"

be clear on what he's said there, yes its PR in response to the BT thing, But look again, hes saying he's spoke with investors?, the conclusion seems to be: it might be nice to "prove the market" and give the impression VM will...., But it wont happen any time soon unless theres pressure from 3rd partys to do so.... and someone foots the bill, perhaps he's looking for a handout from these very same investors.

to recap: it appears Neil doesnt care about the speed as such, its just a means to an end, were he can try and find a way to bring in his (ALOT's)version of metered internet, on a per application rather than per Byte business model, and in taking this app route your average download speed only sheeple dont see it coming as all they see is the BIG No. willy waving download rate.

[Trent]

[QUOTE=popper;34761045]right take a breath and relax
i do wish the sheeple would once in a while scratch the surface in these news reports and headlines etc,the key being remembering the quotes we already know.
/QUOTE]

I hope your comment was aimed at someone else because if it was aimed at me then I take offence. I am no sheeple... I merely qouted a respected news institution and if you beleive it or for that matter any one else's opinion to be wrong then fine comment on it but you dont need to be rude!

[Ignitionnet]

If you're offended by someone possibly calling you a sheeple I would reconsider usage of Internet forums, bad idea to do so if so sensitive will only end in tears.

FWIW I don't think he was referring to you or anyone else specifically.

popper - still no Allot kit of the type required to throttle appropriately on the cable network, besides DPI is expensive and STM is not.

[sk8er_boi6000]

If this ever makes it into the realm of reality then Virgin need to actually upgrade their network, and not just screw everyone with STM. Also the rather slow pace at which the 50mb is being rolled out doesn't exactly give me the greatest confidence in them

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by sk8er_boi6000

If this ever makes it into the realm of reality then Virgin need to actually upgrade their network, and not just screw everyone with STM. Also the rather slow pace at which the 50mb is being rolled out doesn't exactly give me the greatest confidence in them

It's an extremely fast paced 50Mbit rollout, too fast infact which is why it's very rushed.

[telfordcable]

been told that virgin media 100 to 150mb set up fee will be £120 and the monthly service charge for this will be £135 a month.