Legal action taken against Virgin Media throttling practices - Page 5

psyfur · 11-03-2009, 11:21

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Can I point out Ben that you are a member of VM staff posting regarding an ongoing court case involving your employer - bad idea, better to keep schtum.

In gaming terms... WTFPWND!!!

Sorry just had to post that.

dev · 11-03-2009, 12:44

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Originally Posted by leexgx

C&W/NTL/virgin have never done monthy caps, if thay had i likely not be on there service
Virgin cant do montly caps unless thay are set Very high well above 250gb even then thay may lose customers, Virgin do not resell there lines so if customer goes thay get no money from them

250Gb would be plenty for most people, anyone going over that would not be giving VM much of a profit so it would be beneficial to get rid of those customers.

broadbandking · 11-03-2009, 14:39

Do you know how many people use Virgin Media UNLIMITED service for downloading ALOT is the answer which means that if Virgin got rid of them, then Virgin would lose one heck of a lot of customers most likely be 30% of customers

cripinuk · 11-03-2009, 15:20

The problem isn't the STM its the ridiculously low level its set at,in these days off streaming media and multiple computers in a house hold its hit easily.I say keep STM but double the limits.I have two teenagers n a 11yr old plus me using it all at the same time,they need to meet reasonable levels for normal families...

**Hugh** · 11-03-2009, 16:21

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

Do you know how many people use Virgin Media UNLIMITED service for downloading ALOT is the answer which means that if Virgin got rid of them, then Virgin would lose one heck of a lot of customers most likely be 30% of customers

Is that a fact, or an assumption?

leexgx · 11-03-2009, 16:25

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Originally Posted by dev

250Gb would be plenty for most people, anyone going over that would not be giving VM much of a profit so it would be beneficial to get rid of those customers.

it take you 2-3 days to do 250gb so not really an good limit

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Originally Posted by cripinuk

The problem isn't the STM its the ridiculously low level its set at,in these days off streaming media and multiple computers in a house hold its hit easily.I say keep STM but double the limits.I have two teenagers n a 11yr old plus me using it all at the same time,they need to meet reasonable levels for normal families...

on 10mb service it is an little low
on 20mb service it be better if it was 5gb as it only take an 75% of an dvd size file to get STM or 20 mins if you can download at full speed for that time
if your on 20mb doing 3.4gb per day for norm use (upto 9pm any way) mite be high but as i sayed above 5gb be better for that service and up the 10mb one

going to nag at virgin next week as there is way to much packet loss on the 50mb service, on the 20mb one there there was no packet loss unless i was taxing my upload or trying to crash my router (2000 connections test p2p)

(need to stop posting in here now)

Ignitionnet · 11-03-2009, 16:52

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Originally Posted by leexgx

it take you 2-3 days to do 250gb so not really an good limit

Well no it takes you 2-3 days to do 250GB, even though I'm on 20Mbit it takes me over 6 months - still haven't hit that mark yet since September. 250GB is more than ample for my needs and would be a far preferable option to STM as I rarely require serious bandwidth but when I do it's in STM breaking bursts.

Toto · 11-03-2009, 16:56

I have to wonder though, if this goes before a court, isn't the first thing that's going to be asked is why didn't you leave?

Or am I on the wrong track here?

Ignitionnet · 11-03-2009, 16:58

Much as I hate to ruin the anti-cap club thoughts, VM budget my area with a contention ratio of about 75:1. On 20Mbit you can download 6TB/month. 1/75th of that is 80GB/month. 250GB/month is quite reasonable with that ratio in mind.

Even the anti-downloading dodgy material club have to run with the cap, to break STM one day is fairly easily done illegally, to break 250GB a month legally is quite tricky.

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Originally Posted by Toto

I have to wonder though, if this goes before a court, isn't the first thing that's going to be asked is why didn't you leave?

Or am I on the wrong track here?

Depends what the case was raised as.

on in an hour! · 11-03-2009, 17:22

[QUOTE=leexgx;34749956]C&W/NTL/virgin have never done monthy caps, if thay had i likely not be on there service

unfortunately your quote above is wrong lee,in NTL days if say a 2meg user exceeded a certain limit they would be capped,then they could either pay to upgrade to a higher speed (with the limit on that speed,for the rest of the month) or stay capped.i know sirius will back me up on this if hes reading.

BenMcr · 11-03-2009, 17:24

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Originally Posted by on in an hour!

unfortunately your quote above is wrong lee,in NTL days if say a 2meg user exceeded a certain limit they would be capped,then they could either pay to upgrade to a higher speed (with the limit on that speed,for the rest of the month) or stay capped.i know sirius will back me up on this if hes reading.

Sorry - never happened AFAIK

They were going to do that end of 2005/early 2006 IIRC, and even trained the staff on the customer webpages and how it would all work. But it never actually got brought it

on in an hour! · 11-03-2009, 17:30

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Sorry - never happened AFAIK

They were going to do that end of 2005/early 2006 IIRC, and even trained the staff on the customer webpages and how it would all work. But it never actually got brought it

so we are both in the same boat ben,we got the same brief,but as i wasnt a heavy user i never suffered from it,but as a service tech visiting subs complaining of slow speeds this was our official retort

nutellajunkie · 11-03-2009, 18:24

end of the day, VM are liars and commercially this seems viable..
Using words to attract people, like unlimited, fiber optics, oh its all good, until you see the truth..

Im all for the OP, you go man! and if you win some bucks, I would like a postcard from the virgin islands

broadbandking · 11-03-2009, 19:00

fiber optics is true and so is the unlimited but if they said unmetred then that would be false

Milambar · 11-03-2009, 19:10

Sorry, but the "fiber optics", in my opinion, is only PARTLY true. Its fiber optics to the street box (or node, as Ive seen some say here), not fiber optic to the home, which is what most people would assume from the advertising material.