School gym forced to shut - Page 4

08-03-2009, 16:22

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

which just repeats the same info in the OP.

gives you another source though doesnt it

I know how some of you guys who like the current affairs area of the forum do not like just one source

if the op posted from the dailymail I am sure you for one would have requesting more solid information

papa smurf · 08-03-2009, 16:50

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

gives you another source though doesnt it

I know how some of you guys who like the current affairs area of the forum do not like just one source

if the op posted from the dailymail I am sure you for one would have requesting more solid information

Dudley Mead, a governor at the school, said he knew about Muslim parents' concerns, adding: "That's the Muslim belief isn't it? They are very protective of their female children."

doesn't that increase the amount of people reporting the problem?
i think some one just wants to debunk the thread zing ,
a newspaper supremacist maybe

http://www.thisiscroydontoday.co.uk/...l/article.html

http://europenews.dk/en/node/20819

The school also faced claims - which it denied - that a fundraising raffle was banned because it was a form of gambling which would offend Muslim parents.

CHiLL · 08-03-2009, 17:21

Do people wonder why the BNP membership is getting larger?

mr,m · 08-03-2009, 18:06

No comment,its just ridiculous!!

Stuart · 08-03-2009, 18:11

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

doesn't that increase the amount of people reporting the problem?
i think some one just wants to debunk the thread zing ,
a newspaper supremacist maybe

Maybe not. Maybe foreverwar wants to hear the school's side of the story. Both stories linked here came from what the man running the gym said. If he had, say, misinterpreted the reason given, both stories would be wrong.

Russ · 08-03-2009, 18:13

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

Maybe foreverwar wants to hear the school's side of the story.

It would appear the Head has been given ample opportunity to deny the allegations.

Arthurgray50@blu · 08-03-2009, 18:38

Has anyone realised something, concerning these stories of the Muslim faith, causing problems in the community.

There is MORE aggro coming from these stories about the muslim faith, than any other faith, There was a comment made earlier on this thread, that we always have to bend over backwards towards to faith, than any other, which l think is totally wrong, We have to make a stand about this, I will always work along side my fellow man or woman, whatever faith they are, but it does appear, that as soon as a muslim starts, things start to tick and we have to do this and that. The way l look at it is, If they don't like it, why did they start. They should abide by what we have to do, and if they don't like it, move to somewhere else, In our generation we have equal rights, this is accepted, but we do tend to bend towards accepting what they say. and do what they want, which is unfair on others.

Stuart · 08-03-2009, 18:38

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Originally Posted by Russ B

It would appear the Head has been given ample opportunity to deny the allegations.

Fair enough, but we have still only heard one side of the story.

I suppose it's about time I specified some opinions..

Should any parent be forced to allow their child to do something that violates their beliefs? No.

Should that parent allow those beliefs to affect other children? This is a tricky one. No, in the case of something relatively inoffensive such as a school gym, but it depends on what those beliefs involve.

Is it right that a religion should require that boys and girls be segregated? Again, no (IMO). People of both genders will, at some point, have to deal with members of the opposite gender. I feel it is best to encourage them to associate with members of the opposite gender as much as possible.

It's worth noting that in my experience, most Muslims are no more bothered about that sort of thing than, say, Christians (although it *does* depend on what country they were born in).

I have to admit, I am not denying this sort of thing goes on. Organisations do bend over backwards to please one religion over another, I work for one that does. I also have to say that I expressely disagree with the practice.

Edit: I do think, however, that if it is not true (and it's possible it's not), then the school need to issue a statement to that effect.

**Chris** · 08-03-2009, 19:09

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Originally Posted by martyh

whats the difference ...being kept in a classroom for a few extra minuits or being locked in there house, denied any interaction in the outside world apart from school.Do you even realise what kind of life these muslim girls have,if i treated a daughter of mine in the same fashion then i feel certain that social services would be involved .

I suspect I have a slightly better idea of how they're treated than you do. Not that I'm a Muslim, however. I just think I'm more prone to read up on situations and think about them before forming an opinion rather than simply gobbing off. Social services? Don't make me laugh. You're clueless.

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i'm sorry chris but but if you condone there actions then it is you and people like you that contribute to the mess this counties in now

I said don't make me laugh ...

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And for your information i have not got an "Asian hating agenda"i would feel the same if the religion in discussion was catholic,c of e,bhudist,hindu,or freakin' rasterfarian
if anything it's a religion hating agenda but thats a different topic

That much is quite obvious. However as has already been pointed out to you, 'Asian' is not a religion. You claimed to understand that at the time, but your post here suggests that you probably still don't get it.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

this gym club was set up for the good of the community .
community is always being quoted by muslims [community this community that /our community leaders etc ] my take on this is, if its not benefiting the muslim community then it has to go ,and the rest of the community no matter what race colour or creed arent important ,as long as the muslims get there way.
the only losers here are children ,there's no boys in the class rooms etc, it just an after hours activity that has been ruined by the selfish few who will not inter-grate into our multi cultural society ,[the same society there always bleating about] hypocrites .

Dumb prejudice and a refusal to understand, or even acknowledge, the reasons offered for the complaints by the Muslim parents. And you moan that they are selfish or uninterested in integration? Classic.

papa smurf · 08-03-2009, 19:16

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Originally Posted by Chris

Dumb prejudice and a refusal to understand, or even acknowledge, the reasons offered for the complaints by the Muslim parents. And you moan that they are selfish or uninterested in integration? Classic.

thanks for the insults -all I've come to expect ,as you say classic

budwieser · 08-03-2009, 19:25

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/...hut-by-Muslims

Nick Seaton, of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "It seems extreme to force out a club that appears to be doing tremendous good work for children and the community. It's very difficult to see any great grounds for ruining opportunities for children."

well sad day for the kids, what is this country turning into?

How about we just tell the Muslims to **** off.?
It`s our country and if they don`t like it then tough, we have to abide by their rules in their country. I`m so ****ed off with other nationalities telling us what we can do in our own country. The government pander to them but don`t give a **** about its own nationals.

**Chris** · 08-03-2009, 19:27

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Originally Posted by budwieser

How about we just tell the Muslims to **** off.?
It`s our country and if they don`t like it then tough, we have to abide by their rules in their country. I`m so ****ed off with other nationalities telling us what we can do in our own country. The government pander to them but don`t give a **** about its own nationals.

What proof do you have that the Muslim families in question were not born here? I'm willing to bet that most, if not all, of those involved are natural-born British, and just as entitled to a say in what happens in *their* country (i.e. Great Britain) as you are.

Sir John Luke · 08-03-2009, 19:30

In the thirties, it was the Jews who were the whipping boys. Today it is the Muslims. Unfortunately, humanity always seems to breed bigotry.

CHiLL · 08-03-2009, 19:32

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Originally Posted by Chris

What proof do you have that the Muslim families in question were not born here? I'm willing to bet that most, if not all, of those involved are natural-born British, and just as entitled to a say in what happens in *their* country (i.e. Great Britain) as you are.

So what? We're just supposed to stand here and watch them take away all of our privileges?

I don't mind them living here, but I DO mind them enforcing their religion over us.

08-03-2009, 19:34

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Originally Posted by Chris

What proof do you have that the Muslim families in question were not born here? I'm willing to bet that most, if not all, of those involved are natural-born British, and just as entitled to a say in what happens in *their* country (i.e. Great Britain) as you are.

yeah but its still not. An Indian mum and an Indian Dad imo does not breed a British child (Indian used purely for example)

My heritage dates back hundreds of years so to say someone whos family has been here since the 60's or later are just as British as me is just wrong imo