3 month old killed by dogs - Page 2

rogerdraig · 07-02-2009, 23:21

the problem with that is it happens they say we didnt realise and it just keeps on happening

if we were talking about say a venamous snake loose in a room nearly every one here would be up in arms ( be honest now )

dogs kill they can kill faster in most cases than a snake

this sort of thing should be able to be stopped its not like the people invoved are simple people most of the cases i have seen the people involved have all seemed well capable of understanding it after the fact

but becuase its put over as an accident it does not seem to impact the majority as something that should never be done

07-02-2009, 23:41

yes it keeps on happening but the nature of the press means we all hear about it. A few kids die from dog attacks a year but how many die in the bath? or falling down the stairs ? or falling off their bike? shoudl we punish parents for letting their children be children.It is all very easy to be sucked in by the media to think its a daily occurrance but it isnt.

**Maggy** · 07-02-2009, 23:50

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

yes it keeps on happening but the nature of the press means we all hear about it. A few kids die from dog attacks a year but how many die in the bath? or falling down the stairs ? or falling off their bike? it is all very easy to be sucked in by the media to think its a daily occurrance but it isnt

Very true...However I can't help thinking that cases like this are preventable just like the bath drownings and other deaths that affect children..

Perhaps the government should have a little less worry about the nation's diet and make a much bigger push to make people THINK about preventing cases like this happening with a bit more planning and forethought..

Might work for a short time until folk get complacent again and forget to be as vigilant.

rogerdraig · 07-02-2009, 23:57

thats just the ones that die just check out the stats on dog attacks they happen so often the press ignore them as non stories they are just to common

nearly 4000 people ended up in hospital last year from dog bites and its on the increase rather than getting better

LondonRoad · 08-02-2009, 00:05

It is education that is required. I don't really see what a prosecution and any subsequent punishment would achieve in terms of progressing us as a society. I can't imagine that you could punish the Gran any more than she has already been.

Use the money we've saved from these pointless prosecutions to make people realise that you can't leave babies and young toddlers unsupervised. To most of us that's a no brainer but there is a section of society who think of their pets as being human. There are too many maimed, and in this case worse, youngsters being exposed to real danger all the time.

It doesn't matter if they're called Lucky, Fluffy or Cuddles. It doesn't matter if they're dogs, cats, venomous snakes, alligator or Bunnies. They don't actually think like we do!!

Legistlation won't work Education will.

rogerdraig · 08-02-2009, 00:11

not saying it should in this case it should but at some point it needs to be
( as to legilastion we dont need it the laws already there its just that nearly always the they have suffered enough thing comes up it needs to be brought home more forcfully that this isnt a good thing to do and that it is the owners responsibilty what the dog does )

because most of these should not be classed as accidents they may not be done deliberately but they are easily ( nearly always ) very avoidable

frogstamper · 08-02-2009, 02:22

An absolutely tragic case, as already mentioned we don't yet know the specifics of the case but if this is like others it'll be, "I only took my eye off of her/him for a second".
Its good to hear also from the dog lovers on CF that people know only to well not to leave a dog unattended with a baby or toddler, I've heard it so many times before that, "my dog would never hurt anyone, I'd trust him with anyone", as roger says when all is said and done they are not little humans, they are animals.

rogerdraig · 08-02-2009, 02:33

i cringe when i hear those words "mine would never hurt anyone"

especialy when the dog is one of the ones that could easily kill a adult let alone a baby

Osem · 08-02-2009, 08:48

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Originally Posted by Taf

When are people going to finally realise that dogs+infants can be very bad news?

We can only dream but surely if they were going to they'd have done so by now. Sadly this won't be the last time this sort of thing happens.

ntluser · 08-02-2009, 15:12

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Originally Posted by superbiatch

My staffie (Zack) used to do this also, and as such he was never left alone with any children for fear of him knocking them off their feet. As he got older, he settled down and now he's 10 - he's more like a rug.

Sad, sad story and i can't believe someone would leave a baby in the company of two dogs. Although i suppose we don't know the full story yet. The parents must be absolutely broken hearted

Agree absolutely, but wonder how long it will be before we have another similar incident.

Stuart · 08-02-2009, 15:27

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Originally Posted by rogermevans

i cringe when i hear those words "mine would never hurt anyone"

especialy when the dog is one of the ones that could easily kill a adult let alone a baby

So do I. However, when you live with a creature that has never hurt anyone (indeed, is friendly to everyone) it's easy to assume they are safe.

I have two terriers. One Westie and one Yorkie. Both are incredibly friendly and (the yorkie in particular) docile. Would I leave them alone with kids? No. I've seen how quickly they can turn violent. Thankfully only with other dogs, but it was enough to remind me that no matter how domesticated, dogs are still natural scavengers and are quite capable of attacking if they spot a weakness.

rogerdraig · 08-02-2009, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

So do I. However, when you live with a creature that has never hurt anyone (indeed, is friendly to everyone) it's easy to assume they are safe.

I have two terriers. One Westie and one Yorkie. Both are incredibly friendly and (the yorkie in particular) docile. Would I leave them alone with kids? No. I've seen how quickly they can turn violent. Thankfully only with other dogs, but it was enough to remind me that no matter how domesticated, dogs are still natural scavengers and are quite capable of attacking if they spot a weakness.

exactly which is why i say we need a prosecution ( maybe not in this case but at some point ) people still think thier dogs are fluffy friends

i love my dogs but never let the kids be in charge of them until they are old enough to know what to do and do so in a VERY confident manner

dogs spot fear / weakness a mile off

Taf · 09-02-2009, 10:15

A lot of people cringed when dog-licences were stopped... they knew that dogs would end up with owners who could not, or would not, control them properly. And in the hands of many who would abuse them.

Dog crap everywhere, roaming packs of dogs kicked outdoors everyday, trophy dogs trying to make the owner look 'ard.... they give responsible owners a bad name.

09-02-2009, 10:24

well there is less dog crap in the streets than there used to be and there were always loads of dogs running around council estates even when there was dog licences

superbiatch · 09-02-2009, 10:33

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Originally Posted by Taf

A lot of people cringed when dog-licences were stopped... they knew that dogs would end up with owners who could not, or would not, control them properly. And in the hands of many who would abuse them.

I agree, dog licences should be reintroduced. In order to own a dog, you must be able to prove you are responsible and can afford to keep a dog - cos its not cheap.

Whether or not this will ever happen is another story, but it could potentially stop those chavs from having pit bulls on street corners intimidating people. I've nothing against pit bulls (and if they are handled correctly make the most wonderful pets), its the idiots who rear them for fighting I can't stand