Virgin Salespeople with Criminal Records - Page 9

Virgin Salesman · 12-01-2009, 21:26

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Originally Posted by WHISTLED

As has been explained here and privately current UK legislation does not allow the checks you have sugggested for the business.

If you know of specific individuals either locally or nationally that VM should be concerned about there are steps available to you. I think you are aware of them though.

If you are so concerned then do something about it, make a stand.. Its not like anything will ever come back to you.

If current legislation and to quote "does not allow this" then why does Sky, British Gas, Npower and most utility companies do this?!

Sky for example do this (I have a friend who works for them door to door and was unable to have direct contact with customers until checks were complete) and work in the same marketplace as VM do.

What stand would you like me to take?

I have already made a call to VM before Xmas but as yet no resopnse?

This is getting frustrating now - almost 2000 views of this thread but still no action from VM despite views from management with VM !?

12-01-2009, 21:29

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Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman

If current legislation and to quote "does not allow this" then why does Sky, British Gas, Npower and most utility companies do this?!

Sky for example do this (I have a friend who works for them door to door and was unable to have direct contact with customers until checks were complete) and work in the same marketplace as VM do.

What stand would you like me to take?

I have already made a call to VM before Xmas but as yet no resopnse?

This is getting frustrating now - almost 2000 views of this thread but still no action from VM despite views from management with VM !?

??? this is an independent forum, you will get no direct action from VM here

Virgin Salesman · 12-01-2009, 21:43

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Originally Posted by homealone

??? this is an independent forum, you will get no direct action from VM here

Even if some of the thead viewers work within VM Security and Compliance?

12-01-2009, 21:51

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Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman

Even if some of the thead viewers work within VM Security and Compliance?

no - I know of VM staff who have been 'warned off' offering to help directly with stuff as mundane as connection problems via this forum - I can't imagine security/compliance issues would be any different.

Virgin Salesman · 12-01-2009, 21:59

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Originally Posted by homealone

no - I know of VM staff who have been 'warned off' offering to help directly with stuff as mundane as connection problems via this forum - I can't imagine security/compliance issues would be any different.

They are aware (I have PM proof) that is enough!

12-01-2009, 22:09

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Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman

They are aware (I have PM proof) that is enough!

In the context of this forum I'm not sure how that helps, but so long as you are happy ???

rogerdraig · 12-01-2009, 22:38

do you have any links for these companies where they state they need a CRB to employ people in sales ?

i find no mention of it at thier sites

i can just about see why a British gas engineer may need one as they can demand access to property to make safe an installation even if no adult was home though that must be a rare ocurance

Virgin Salesman · 12-01-2009, 23:13

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Originally Posted by rogermevans

do you have any links for these companies where they state they need a CRB to employ people in sales ?

i find no mention of it at thier sites

i can just about see why a British gas engineer may need one as they can demand access to property to make safe an installation even if no adult was home though that must be a rare ocurance

i am not sure it would be something they advertise/mention on their site/s??!!

Can't ever see how the british gas engineer would want bank details? VM salespeople encounter this daily??!! And your point is??

rogerdraig · 12-01-2009, 23:30

they have to say if they require one and why thats why they need to state which type ( enhanced or standard or possibly basic in Scotland only ) and why they are going to get one done

you cant now get one done to carry around unless you are agency staff and the agency is then taking on as an umbrella organisation the responsibility to say you are safe

i still fail to see where any of those organisations would justify even a standard check on employees

( you read through the site and see if you can show me one section that would allow it )

i have had to deal with all that red tape since i took on this vollenteer position and know it quite well i think

if you really think every one dealling with the public where they posibly may pay for something needs to be checked its not virgin you need to be moaning at but the goverment

though you better have something better than the current CRB system in mind as it is highly flawed now as far as i am concerened as even on an advanced check you no longer need any refferies

by the way my spell check is ofline again sigh so people will have to put up with my real spelling for a bit lol

Virgin Salesman · 12-01-2009, 23:52

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Originally Posted by rogermevans

they have to say if they require one and why thats why they need to state which type ( enhanced or standard or possibly basic in Scotland only ) and why they are going to get one done

you cant now get one done to carry around unless you are agency staff and the agency is then taking on as an umbrella organisation the responsibility to say you are safe

i still fail to see where any of those organisations would justify even a standard check on employees

( you read through the site and see if you can show me one section that would allow it )

i have had to deal with all that red tape since i took on this vollenteer position and know it quite well i think

if you really think every one dealling with the public where they posibly may pay for something needs to be checked its not virgin you need to be moaning at but the goverment

though you better have something better than the current CRB system in mind as it is highly flawed now as far as i am concerened as even on an advanced check you no longer need any refferies

by the way my spell check is ofline again sigh so people will have to put up with my real spelling for a bit lol

BULLS++T they only have to mention later in the application!!

FACT - SKY and Utilities and check - VM dont!!!!

I have just looked at the Brit Gas, Sky and Npower websites - no mention -does not mean no check???

Give it a break now? VM customers are exposed to potential "unspent" convicts - FACT!

Stuart · 13-01-2009, 00:11

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Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman

They are aware (I have PM proof) that is enough!

A pm may not necessarily be proof.

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Originally Posted by rogermevans

i can just about see why a British gas engineer may need one as they can demand access to property to make safe an installation even if no adult was home though that must be a rare ocurance

The utilities (all of them) may require them as their engineers may need to enter a property whether an adult is present or not, to make the installer safe.

Virgin Salesman · 13-01-2009, 00:14

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

A pm may not necessarily be proof.

Within PM's (which I can't publish) sent to me it is obvious (due to knowledge of process) they work for VM - Even confirming which dept.

Stuart · 13-01-2009, 00:25

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Originally Posted by Virgin Salesman

Within PM's (which I can't publish) sent to me it is obvious (due to knowledge of process) they work for VM - Even confirming which dept.

I wasn't asking you to publish them.. In fact, doing so without the permission of the author would be against the site Terms and Conditions.

Virgin Salesman · 13-01-2009, 00:29

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

I wasn't asking you to publish them.. In fact, doing so without the permission of the author would be against the site Terms and Conditions.

So in what/which way can I not be sure?

Stuart · 13-01-2009, 00:34

People can (and some do) lie in PMs.

Not saying that anyone has lied in PM to you (I could not check even if I wanted to) but we do have people coming on here claiming to be VM Staff and asking for members personal details without us actually being able to confirm they are (we have our own method of doing this which I am not at liberty to discuss).